18 September - Extraordinary

Good evening everyone. Welcome to our meeting tonight. I’ll just hand over to the General Manager for the preliminaries.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. I’d like to begin by acknowledging the traditional custodians of the land, the Dharug people, their Elders past and present. Members of the public attending the meeting are advised that in the event of an emergency, you will be asked to proceed in an orderly manner to the nearest exit, following the guidance of our warden, Natasha. I would also like to advise members of the public that in accordance with clause 6.3.1 of the Code of Meeting Practice, meetings of the Council are recorded. For the benefit of all present, we’ll be conducting the meeting in accordance with the guidelines that have been put on people’s chairs, that have been circulated by the Department of Local Government. Finally , it is also requested that if any person in the Council chambers has a mobile phone, that they either turn it off or turn it to silent. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr Conroy. The first item is item 232, Election of the Mayor. Councillors, can someone move the recommendation on page 9 of the business paper? Moved Councillor Rasmussen, seconded Councillor Ross. All those in favour? I’m now going to vacate this chair and hand the meeting over to the returning officer, who is the General Manager.

So the first item of business is the election of the mayor for the next two years. Councillors, you've all been provided with a set of nomination forms, a copy of the fact sheet prepared by the Office of Local Government to assist us in ensuring that we adhere to the relevant legislation. Copies of the fact sheet have also been placed in the gallery, as I mentioned, to assist those present in following this evening's proceedings. At this point, I've received nominations for the role of mayor from Councillor Barry Calvert and Councillor Mary Lyons-Buckett. Are there any further nominations? That being the case, I can formally confirm that I have following nominations for the role of mayor: Councillor Barry Calvert, Councillor Mary Lyons-Buckett.

I've also received confirmation from all of the councillors that they have accepted their nominations. As we have more than one candidate, we must now determine by resolution the preferred method for voting for the role of mayor. The options are open voting, show of hands, ordinary ballot, secret ballot,

Preferential ballot. I'll move a motion for open voting.

Okay, I've got a mover and a seconder. Is there any discussion?

I just call for an open vote in the spirit of transparency and accountability of this council. I think the community deserves to know who's voting for who, and I believe that in accordance with what's recommended by the Office of Local Government, that is what we should do.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. Any further speakers? Any closing comments? Okay. I'll now put the motion. Can we get a record of councillors' preferences for the vote? The motion is for an open vote show of hands. That's unanimous. So, councillors, it has been resolved that the preferred method for voting for the role of mayor is open voting. Each councillor is entitled to vote for only one candidate in each round of voting. I will now write each candidate's name on a slip of paper and deposit them in the container. The first name out of the container will be written first on the tally sheet and the second name out will be written second on the tally sheet. So, Councillor Calvert. Councillor Lyons-Buckett. So, the first

Candidate on the sheet is Councillor Calvert. The second candidate on the tally sheet is Councillor Lyons-Buckett.

Okay. With the councillors voting for position one on the tally sheet, Councillor Calvert, please raise your hand. So that's six votes for Councillor Calvert. With those councillors voting for position two on the tally sheet, Councillor Lyons-Buckett, please raise your hand. That's six votes for Councillor Lyons-Buckett. Councillors, as we have a tied vote, in accordance with clause 12 of Schedule 7 of Local Government General Regulation 2005, we will now write the names of the candidates on similar slips of paper, fold them and place them in a container. Please note that the name of the candidate whose name is drawn out will be declared the Mayor.

So, Councillor Calvert.

Councillor Lyons-Buckett.

Councillor Calvert. Oh, sorry. Councillor

Lyons-Buckett.

Okay, we're in a council meeting. If we can just maintain. Okay. I will now ask the Mayor of Hawkesbury City Council, Councillor Calvert, to chair the balance of the meeting.

Thank you.

The second item is item 233, the election of the Deputy Mayor. Councillors, can someone please move the recommendation on page 11 of the business paper, and can you please nominate a term up to two years. Councillor Conolly. Moved that we proceed with the recommendation for a term of two years. Do we have a seconder for that? Councillor Tree. Anyone wish to speak against it? I'll put the motion then. All those in favour say aye. Those against? Declared carried. I'm now going to hand the meeting over to the returning officer, the General Manager.

Okay. The next item is the election of the Deputy Mayor for a term of two years. Councillors, you've all been provided with a set of nomination forms, and at this point, I've received five nominations

For

The role of Deputy Mayor: Councillor Calvert, Councillor Conolly, Councillor Kotlash , and Councillor Lyons-Buckett and Councillor Rasmussen . So, that being the case. I have the following nominations for the role of Deputy Mayor: Councillor Connolly, Councillor Kotlash, and Councillor Lyons-Buckett. And I also have confirmation from all of the councillors that they have accepted their nominations. As we have more than one candidate, we must again now determine by resolution the preferred method of voting for the role of Deputy Mayor. The options are open voting, ordinary ballot, and preferential ballot. Councillor Connolly. Move that it be by open voting. Do you have a seconder, Councillor Connolly? I'll second that. Any discussion? Okay, I'll now put the motion. All those in favour of the motion? Is that unanimous?

Councillors, I'll now write each candidate's name on a slip of paper and deposit it in the container. The first name out of the container will be written first on the tally sheet, the second out being written second, and so on. Councillor Connolly. Councillor Kotlash. Councillor Lyons-Buckett

Okay. First name, first position on the tally sheet is Councillor Lyons-Buckett. Second position on the tally sheet is Councillor Connolly. Third position is Councillor Kotlash. Councillors, as there are

Three or more candidates,

The candidate with the lowest number of votes for the position of Deputy Mayor will be excluded in the first round. In the event that the lowest number of votes are tied, then the following process is that the two names will be written on a piece, similar slips of paper, folded and placed in the container, and the candidate whose name is drawn out first will be excluded from the next round.

So, the first person... First position is Councillor Lyons-Buckett. Could I have a show of hands, please? Second position is Councillor Connolly. Can I have a show of hands, please? Third position is Councillor Kotlash. Can I have a show of hands, please? So, Councillor Kotlash , as the lowest number of votes, you will be excluded from the next round. Okay. The next round is between Councillor Lyons-Buckett and Councillor Connolly. Could I have a show of hands for position number one, Councillor Lyons-Buckett? Could I have a show of hands for Councillor Connolly, please?

Yeah.

And we have two abstentions. That being the case, Councillor Lyons-Buckett is the Deputy Mayor.

The next item.

So the next item is item 2.3.4, the appointment of committee delegates and representatives on page 12 of the business paper, and the mayor will chair the meeting.

Thank you.

3.5, various committees and working groups, the annual reports. Would someone like to move that we accept those? Would there be any discussion about the annual reports, Councillor Rasmussen? You're moving we accept them. I am, Mr. Mayor. Councillor Tree, you wanted to second that? No discussion. I'll move that then. The motion is we accept all those working groups, committees, annual reports. All those in favour say aye. Those against, declare it carried. Is there any further business, Mr. General Manager? Any further general business? I just want to say thank you for those people who have supported me to be here. I want to also thank the previous Mayor, Councillor Lyons-Buckett, for the hard work she's done. I look forward to the 12 of us working together for the benefit of this community. Thank you for your attendance. Meeting closed at 7.25.

Chair the meeting.

Thank you, Mr Conroy, for that. We might wait a minute until some of the crowd are leaving, thank you. Okay

So those people who have chosen to stay,

Could you please refrain from shouting out from the gallery,

Thank you.

If you're not going to refrain, then you'll have to leave, sorry. We're up to item 235. 234, sorry. Appointment of committee delegates and representatives, and there is a recommendation on page 18 about this list of representatives and delegates. Do we have anyone in the— any councillor who would like to move that recommendation or any amendment

To it? Mr Mayor, I have submitted a notice of motion— not a notice, a motion on the committees. You submitted it?

Yeah. It should be available. I haven't seen it.

Is this it up there? Yep. Councillor Ross, you need— I wish to second that. Thank you. So, Councillor Rasmussen, this is your motion on the board, is it?

Yeah, I can't see all of it, Mr Mayor, but I assume it is. That's the one I— sorry.

Would you like to speak to it, please?

Mr Mayor, I thought— thank you very much. Thank you. I thought, in the interest of efficiency, that we do it this way, and other councillors who wish to nominate, I guess, can do so during the course of this debate.

So let me clarify: the names you've listed on the right-hand column are the people you are suggesting should be on the committees. That's correct, Mr Mayor. So the heading which says current council representatives is no longer correct. These are the proposed council representatives. Is that right?

Mr Mayor, my motion did read council approve the committees and nominations listed below, so I don't know what the— can't see what the stem is.

The heading across the top on the right-hand side says current council representatives. So you would like that to

Oh, I'm sorry, Mr— yeah, of course, yeah,

Yeah, yeah. Thank you. You'd like that to read proposed council— Proposed council. Do we have any discussion on this, please?

I'd like to move an amendment.

Yep.

Or if we're nominating or removing. From committees to not be on the, I can't see them all, but not the Hawkesbury Civics and Citizenship. Thank you, if I could be removed from that.

Councillor Rasmussen, we haven't had time to go through this. It's only just been put up on the board. I'm just wondering whether you would like to take a few minutes to walk us through the changes that you're proposing.

Mr Mayor, the changes are simply the current ones, except where some councillors have indicated that they do not wish to be on the various committees that they might have been, were on before. And we've added, I've added a couple of councillors who've indicated that they would like to be on some of the committees that are listed there.

So, for example, the first one, the Human Services Advisory Committee, you have removed myself and Councillor Lyons-Buckett and Councillor Richards.

Mr Mayor, what I've done is I've indicated the councillors that have indicated that they would like to be on those committees. I wasn't aware of your interest or continuing interest.

Mr Mayor, could I perhaps move an amendment? Yes, please, Councillor. I would like to, I don't know if, I'm not even sure what the correct term is to throw it at you for the first go, but what I would like to do is just vote on each, just do each of these as a separate motion, because it's, I mean, if Councillor Rasmussen had sent around a list, we could probably work with it and potentially... Just get the bits we don't like. We haven't seen it. We can't see it on the board. There's no way we can possibly vote for it. I think it would be much better if we just voted, if we just went through each committee. Looking at those three that I can see on the board, I don't know which ones I've been removed off without being asked. So,

So, yep, it appears there's been some radical changes, and none of us, not many of us have seen this beforehand. So, Councillor Connolly is suggesting we walk through each committee separately. Do you have a seconder, Councillor Kotlash?

Yes, I'll second .

Any discussion on that? I'll move that we do it that way. All those in favour say aye. Those against? Declare it carried. The first one is the Human Services Advisory Committee. Councillor Rasmussen, you're putting up two councillors.

Mr Mayor. Yes, I am. Those two councillors listed on my motion, yeah. Those being Councillor

Garrow and Councillor Ross. Would anyone like to move an amendment to that?

Sorry, Mr Mayor.

Yes. Councillor Richards.

It's his motion. Is this whole thing Councillor Rasmussen's motion or just this first committee?

We decided after Councillor Connolly's motion to do them one at a time. Okay. But what's

On the board

Is the whole

Thing. Yep, we're doing one bit at a time. So, Councillor Rasmussen has suggested those two names. Does anyone wish to move an amendment or speak on that?

I'd like to nominate to be on that committee, please.

Councillor Richards would like to be nominated for that committee. I would also like to be on that committee, considering I've been on it for maybe 15 years, and I wasn't aware that I'd been removed.

Anybody else? I'll second the amendment from Councillor Richards that we, the names are Councillor Ross, Councillor Garrow, Councillor Calvert and Councillor Richards. Thank you, Councillor Conolly

Is there any further discussion? So the motion is that we have four councillors appointed to that committee, being Councillor Garrow, Councillor Ross, Councillor Calvert and Councillor Richards. I'll put that part of the motion. All those in favour say aye. Those against that amendment, that is. I'll declare the amendment carried. The second one is the Hawkesbury Civics and Citizenship Committee. Councillor Rasmussen.

I'm proposing those two councillors in my motion.

So you're proposing to leave Councillor Lyons-Buckett off the committee?

Correct, that's correct, Mr Mayor.

Does anyone wish to speak against that or in favour of that?

Councillor Conolly. Only to point out that I think the mayor is always on that committee. No. Okay. Yes, I understand it says that, but I believe for the last forever it's always been the mayor. I don't know if Councillor Calvert was interested, I would be interested, but I would point that out first if

Councillor Calvert was. Thank you for that. I might ask the General Manager to comment on that.

The requirement is that it's just three councillors. Historically, I understand that the mayor has been an active member of that committee, but the current term of reference is for three councillors.

So, Councillor Conolly, you're putting your name forward? Yes. So at the moment we have three names: Councillor Richards, Councillor Zamprogno and Councillor Conolly. Any further discussion?

That'll be another amendment, Barry.

So Councillor Conolly is moving that amendment. Do we have a seconder? Councillor Kotlash. I'll move the amendment. All those in favour say aye. Carried. The Waste Management Advisory Committee. Councillor Rasmussen, do you wish to speak?

Other than the nominations that I put on my motion. So

You're suggesting Councillor Lyons-Buckett, Councillor Rasmussen, Councillor Ross and Councillor Wheeler. Does anyone wish to speak on that? No. So the amendment goes through as it is. All those in favour say aye. Those against? Declared carried. The Sustainability Advisory Committee. Two names: Councillor Ross and Councillor Wheeler. Do we have anyone who wishes to speak on that? Councillor Kotlash.

I'd like to nominate to remain on the Environmental Sustainability Advisory Committee.

So we have three names, but there are only two councillor positions. Would anyone like to move that we have three councillors in that committee?

I'd like to move that one,

Mr Mayor. Councillor Rasmussen. So it's been moved we have three councillors and Councillor Kotlash is asked to be the third. Is there any more discussion on the matter? Do we have a seconder for that? Sorry, Councillor Richards. Any more discussion on the matter? No? I'll put the amendment. The amendment is that there be three councillors on this Sustainability Advisory Committee and they be Councillor Kotlash, Councillor Wheeler and Councillor Ross. All those in favour say aye. Those against, declare it carried. Heritage Advisory Committee.

Madam Mayor, I've enjoyed the last two years on that committee and I'd like to remain on that committee.

Thank you.

There

Are spots for three councillors on that committee. There are two listed up there, plus Councillor Zamprogno makes three. Councillor Zamprogno is moving that those three councillors be on that committee. Do we have a seconder? Councillor Conolly. Any further discussion? It's been moved and seconded that the three councillors be Councillor Reynolds, Councillor Wheeler and Councillor Zamprogno. All those in favour say aye. Those against, declare it carried. Floodplain Risk Management Advisory Committee. As you can see, Councillor Rasmussen, I have to digest what changes you've made. You've left off Councillor Kotlash and left the other four in. Is that right?

Yes, that's correct, Mr Mayor.

There is room for five councillors. Councillor Kotlash.

I'd like to nominate to be the fifth councillor on that committee, please.

Thank you. Councillor Kotlash is moving an amendment that be five councillors on the committee, and they be Councillor Lyons-Buckett, Councillor Kotlash, Councillor Rasmussen, Councillor Reynolds and Councillor Wheeler. I might ask the General Manager whether one of those positions has to be the mayor's position, whether the mayor necessarily has to go to that.

Again, Mr Mayor, it just refers to five councillors. It doesn't specifically indicate that the mayor has to be one of those five councillors.

No, it was actually the one committee I was allowed on in the last council term.

So there's five people, five councillors putting a name up for that committee, and it's been moved and seconded. Need a seconder still. I thought I had a seconder, Councillor Connolly, wasn't it? Oh, sorry. Do I need to read the five names again? No. I'll put that amendment then. All those in favour say aye. Those against, declare it carried. General manager's performance review panel.

I'd like to nominate that I be the third councillor, as I was already. That should be Councillor Connolly, I

Think you need to So does this need the mayor to be on this committee, Mr General Manager?

Yes, the mayor should be on that committee.

I'd like to move an amendment then, Mr Mayor, that the three councillors are Councillor Calvert, Councillor Lyons-Buckett and Councillor Connolly.

I don't wish to be on it, thank you.

Okay, then Councillor Calvert, Councillor Connolly and Councillor Rasmussen.

Councillor Conolly has moved an amendment that there be three councillors on there, Councillor Calvert, Councillor Conolly and Councillor Rasmussen. Do we have a seconder for that? Councillor Rasmussen. Any further discussion on that? All those in favour say aye. Those against, declare it carried. Audit Committee. Councillor Rasmussen and Councillor Ross, and in the old committee Councillor Conolly was the alternate. Does anyone wish to speak on that?

Councillor Conolly. Happy to continue to act as the alternate. I'm not sure. Councillor Rasmussen indicated that people had indicated they didn't want to be on these committees. I haven't been asked about any of these that I've had to put my name back onto. It's odd.

So you're moving an amendment, Councillor Conolly. The amendment is that the Councillor Rasmussen and Councillor Ross be on the committee and that you be alternate. Do we have a seconder for that? Councillor Rasmussen. Any further discussion? I'll put the amendment. All those in favour say aye. Those against, declare it carried. The Access and Inclusion Advisory Committee. At the moment it has two councillors, myself and Councillor Ross. I'd be happy to continue on that committee if someone would like to move that. Councillor Kotlash is moving.

Yes, move.

An amendment that the two councillors be Councillor Calvert and Councillor Ross. Do we have a seconder for that? Councillor Zamprogno. Any further discussion? I'll move the amendment then. All those in favour say aye. Those against, declare it carried. Hawkesbury Tourism Advisory Committee.

I'd like to nominate, please, Mr Mayor.

So there's room for three councillors. Second that. Councillor Richards is moving an amendment those three councillors be Councillor Garrow, Councillor Rasmussen and Councillor Richards, and Councillor Connolly is seconding that. Any further discussion? If not, I'll move the amendment. All those in favour say aye. Those against, declare it carried. Infrastructure Committee.

Mr Mayor.

Councillor Zamprogno

I have been a member of that committee and would desire to continue. So , Infrastructure.

Yes. Madam Deputy Mayor

I don't wish to be on it, thank you.

Thank you.

Mr Mayor, I would be interested in being

On that. Councillor Zamprogno is moving an amendment, and I think the amendment is that Councillor Rasmussen, Councillor Reynolds, Councillor Zamprogno and Councillor Tree be the members of that committee. Is that right? Is that what you're moving, Councillor Zamprogno?

I wouldn't go so far, Mr Mayor. I confess to be confused. All right then. So , I don't want to kick anybody off. I'm just saying that I was on it and I'd like to stay on it.

Okay. The mayor is supposed to be on that committee, I believe. Three councillors So the three councillors are Councillor Rasmussen, Councillor Reynolds, Councillor Zamprogno Councillor Tree expressed an interest. To do that, we would have to have an election for that position. Do you wish to do that, Councillor Tree? Mayor and three councillors. You want to amend it to make it mayor and four councillors? Can we do that, Mr General Manager? Yes. So we're getting back to Councillor Zamprogno Progno's amendment,

Which is Councillor Calvert, Councillor Rasmussen,

Councillor Reynolds , Councillor Ross, Councillor Tree, Councillor Zamprogno. Now that's six; we've got one too many. I'm happy to include, if

I'm the mover of an amendment, that the number of councillors be increased to that number.

Mr Mayor, I'm happy to abstain and let Councillor Zamprogno continue.

So Councillor Tree is stepping down. Do we have the right numbers now?

It's the mayor and three councillors. So

So you have to change it to four, the mayor and four.

So I think Councillor Zamprogno wanted to move it to the mayor and four councillors, didn't you? Do we have a seconder for that?

Yes.

Councillor Kotlash. So we have the right numbers now. Everybody happy? Okay. So we had an amendment and it's been seconded. All those in favour say aye, those against declare it carried. Local Traffic Committee, Councillor Reynolds, there's no change there. Does anyone wish to nominate that there be a change to the Local Traffic Committee? No, we'll leave it as it is. Club Grants Local Committee, that's the mayor, so that should be my name there. The Greater Sydney Local Land Services Local Government Advisory Group is Councillor Kotlash at the moment. Councillor Kotlash, are you happy to be that councillor again?

Thank you, Mr Mayor. Yes, yes I am, although I think that that advisory group is in the throes of being disbanded, but I would be happy to carry on until that is made clear.

So you're moving an amendment to Councillor Rasmussen's motion that Councillor Kotlash be the representative on that committee?

Thank you. Do

We have a seconder for that? Do we have a Councillor Connolly? Any further discussion? Okay, I'll move the amendment, moved by Councillor Kotlash, seconded by Councillor Connolly. All those in favour say aye. Those against, declare it carried. Regional Strategic Alliance is the Mayor, the Deputy Mayor and one alternate. So in the right-hand column it should be Councillor Lyons-Buckett, Councillor Calvert and one other. Councillor Rasmussen, are you suggesting the one other be you?

Yeah, that's what I'm suggesting. That's the alternate. Okay. I'd also like to be considered for the alternate position, given I am that currently. Given what, sorry? I am currently the alternate for the Regional Strategic Alliance and have attended a meeting.

So there's only, I believe, space for three councillors on this committee, on the Alliance. We now have four. Well, the first two are not disputed, but the alternate is disputed between Councillor Connolly— And Councillor Rasmussen. Both of you still want to put your hand up for that? Councillor Rasmussen? Yep. So it'd have to be an election. And I assume—yes, Councillor

On a point of order, wouldn't it just be a motion and an amendment? If the motion is for Councillor Rasmussen, I'll move the amendment that it be me.

It still amounts to an election, I suppose, by show of hands, doesn't it? And you're right, Councillor Rasmussen is moving that he be the alternate delegate. Do we have a seconder for that? Councillor Ross. So it's moved that Councillor Rasmussen be the alternate delegate. Please raise your hand if you agree. One, two—Councillor Garry, your hand up. Three, four, five, six. Councillor Connolly is also—so that is not carried. Councillor Connolly, put his hand up for the alternate delegate. Put up your hand if you vote for Councillor Connolly. Six. So we do need an election. I can use my casting vote, in which case I'll move my casting vote in favour of Councillor Connolly.

So now we have those three names for the strategic alliance. I'll move that as an amendment: Councillor Lyons-Buckett, Councillor Calvert, Councillor Connolly. That's been moved and seconded. All those in favour? Those against? Declare it carried. The Civic Risk West, Civic Risk Mutual. One councillor, Councillor Rasmussen, who is the current delegate. Is there any discussion? Any discussion on that? No. Okay, well I'll move that. Councillor Rasmussen's putting it up. Do we have a seconder? Councillor Ross. I'll move that amendment. All those in favour say aye. Those against? Declare it carried. McMahons Park Management Committee. At the moment we have Councillor Connolly and Councillor Kotlash as the alternative. Councillor Ross has been nominated by Councillor Rasmussen. Any discussion on that? No discussion.

Just a moment. I just was looking for it because the people there said no one ever goes. So I was just going to see if the people who were, if Councillor Ross can attend. It's on a Monday night, I think. Okay.

Councillor Ross has put his hand up for this. Do we have a name for an alternate delegate? No. The position will have to stay vacant. The amendment is that Councillor Ross be the McMahons Park Management Committee delegate, and that's moved by Councillor Rasmussen, seconded by Councillor Ross. All those in favour say aye. Those against? Declare it carried. Hawkesbury Sports Council.

Thank you, Mr Mayor.

I would

Like to nominate myself, considering my removal was never discussed. Thank you.

So the Sports Council has one delegate and one alternate. Councillor Rasmussen is suggesting that it be Councillor Ross, with Councillor Garrow as the alternate. Councillor Richards, it is moving an amendment that it be Councillor Richards as the delegate, and who as the alternate? Councillor Garrow . So we have that amendment from Councillor Richards. Has that been seconded? Councillor Connolly. Councillor Garrow, are you happy to be the alternate So the amendment has been moved and seconded. I'll move that amendment. All those in favour say aye. Those against? Declare it carried. Peppercorn Services. Councillor Garrow is the current representative, and Councillor Rasmussen's motion is that Councillor Garrow stay as the representative. Are you happy to do that, Councillor Garrow?

Excuse me, Mayor. Yes. Can I enquire in regard to the Sports Council, please?

Yes. We've already moved it, but you can enquire. Why

Is not my name included in the initial listing?

It was, but there was an amendment. The amendment was Councillor Richards and Councillor Garrow, and that was voted on and passed. Thank you. Peppercorn Services. Councillor Garrow has indicated that she's happy to stay on. Any further discussion? I'll move that Councillor Garrow be the representative. That's Councillor Rasmussen's motion. Do we have a seconder for that, sorry? Councillor Ross. All those in favour say aye. Those against? Declare it carried. Western Sydney Regional Organisation of Councils.

Mr Mayor.

Councillor Zamprogno.

You and I have enjoyed being on that committee for the last two years, and you will recall that there was a move within WestROC to encourage mayors to be their council's representatives to WestROC. Therefore, I propose to amend that so that the two delegates are yourself and myself.

Thank you. Do you want to nominate an alternate as well? I

Wish to withdraw—well, my name was on there—but I wish to withdraw and nominate Councillor Wheeler.

Councillor Wheeler as the alternate. Councillor Wheeler, are you happy to do that? Yes. So the amendment moved by Councillor Zamprogno is that the delegates be Councillor Calvert, Councillor Zamprogno, with Councillor Wheeler as the alternate. That's the amendment. It's moved by Councillor Zamprogno. Who seconded it? Councillor Kotlash. I'll move the amendment. All those in favour say aye. Those against? Declare it carried. Hawkesbury River County Council. A

Point of order, Mr Mayor. Yes, that's okay. I'll

Answer. I

Believe note 4 in the business paper states that Councillor Kotlash and Councillor Zamprogno were elected as members of the Hawkesbury River County Council for the four-year term.

Yep. So Councillor Rasmussen, that part of your motion is out of order because those two people were elected for the four-year term. Okay.

Thank you, Mr Mayor. I don't know that I actually did move that, but anyway, okay, I'm happy with that.

Well, I believe what's on the board is what you moved. It's not. Well, if you're not happy with what's on the board, please, because we're working our way through your motion.

Yeah, I get that, but I didn't get a chance to read that part of it, as you know. So I'm happy for the people who were on there previously, who are nominated for a period of, what is it, four years by the minister. I'm happy for that.

Okay, so you're changing your motion to read Councillor Kotlash and Councillor...? Yes, I understand. Mr Sam Zamprogno . I'll move that anyway, moved by Councillor Rasmussen, seconded by Councillor Kotlash. All those in favour say aye. Those against? Declare it carried. Hawkesbury Sister City Association has two councillors on it at the moment. We have Councillor Connolly and Councillor Garrow. Councillor Rasmussen is suggesting that we have Councillor Rasmussen and Councillor Wheeler.

Is that right, Councillor Rasmussen? Mr Mayor, again, I had in my motion, I thought I did, at least that's what I've got in front of me, that I would remain an alternative as I was previously. So

Could you spell out what your motion is, please?

So Councillor Rasmussen, alternative; Councillor Wheeler, alternative;

And Councillor Connolly and Councillor Garrow as the delegates. Mr Mayor— Hang on, I just want to clear what Councillor Rasmussen is moving.

Mr Mayor, I have nominated.

So you're only nominating the alternate delegates, right. Councillor Conolly.

I can see it's being written up on the board at the moment, but I actually, I don't have the time for this committee. It's a very full-on committee and I don't feel like I'm representing Council to the best of what Council could do. So if there's another councillor who had the time for that committee, I think that would be better, and I'll withdraw my name.

Okay. Councillor Garrard, are you happy to stay on the committee? No

I withdraw my name also, please, because I also.. .

Okay. We're looking for two councillors to be on the Hawkesbury Sister City Association. Any volunteers? Councillor Ross? Sorry. Anybody else? We have one delegate and two alternates at the moment. Happy to leave it like that. So that's been moved by Councillor Rasmussen, and Councillor Rasmussen's moving that Councillor Ross be the delegate and there be two alternates, Councillor Rasmussen and Councillor Wheeler. Who seconded that? Councillor Conolly, I think. Just

A point of order, because I can see what's being written on the board. I think we should leave it as two councillors and just leave one position vacant, because that two councillors comes from their constitution rather than our decision.

Yes, sorry, I didn't know the board had been changed, yes. And someone else may volunteer at a later stage. I'll leave that up to councillors. Is that all right, Councillor Conolly, as it stands now? Councillor Rasmussen, are you happy with that?

Yes, Mr Mayor.

Okay, so I'll move that motion. All those in favour say aye. Against? Declare it carried. Other committees? Councillor, sorry, the New South Wales Public Libraries.

No, I wish to withdraw from that, thank you.

Do we have any volunteers for that committee? If not, I'll volunteer for that one.

Okay.

Any other discussion? So, somebody like to move that? Councillor Tree moving that. Councillor Richards seconding that. Councillor Calvert be the representative to the New South Wales Public Libraries. All those in favour say aye. Those against? Declare it carried. Western Sydney Academy of Sport. Councillor Ross, are you happy to accept that nomination? Councillor Ross? Yes. Councillor Ross

Has accepted the nomination ,

Western Sydney Academy of Sport. Councillor Reynolds, you don't want to continue? You're happy? Does anyone want to take the position of delegate other than me? Alternate delegate, sorry. If not, I'll stay as alternate. It's been moved by Councillor Ross, seconded by Councillor Kotlash, that the delegate be Councillor Ross and the alternate be Councillor Calvert. Councillor Budget Preparation—sorry, I better move that. All those in favour say aye. Those against? Declare it carried. Councillor Budget Preparation Process. Currently, Councillor Lyons-Buckett and Councillor Connolly.

No, I wish to withdraw.

Councillor Connolly, do you wish to withdraw? I would like to be included in that . You'd like to be the delegate? Yes. Councillor— we, anyway

I went to a lot of the sessions last time. Can we stop the talk across the room, please, Councillor Connolly? There's a long tantrum happening at the moment. You were saying? I'm quite— it says Council previously appointed an additional councillor. I'd be happy to move the amendment that it be Councillor Ross and myself.

Councillor Ross, you're happy to be on that committee? So it's been moved that we have two councillors on that committee and they be Councillor Ross and Councillor Connolly. That's moved by Councillor Connolly, seconded by Councillor Ross, I believe. Yep. Good on you. I'll move that. All those in favour say aye. Those against? Declare it carried Further business, Mr General Manager, is to accept all that, isn't it? Would someone like to move that we accept all those changes to the committees? Councillor Ross, seconded Councillor Rasmussen. All those in favour say aye. Those against? Declare it carried. Item two.