Well, welcome everybody to the Hawkesbury Local Planning Panel meeting for the 17th of March today. My name is Louise Byrne. I'm the chair of this meeting, and I believe that we are now being live streamed. So if anyone has a view to the opposite, can they please let me know. We've just had a few little IT glitches this morning. Now, the panel has been appointed by the Minister for Planning and the Council to determine certain categories of development applications, three of which we have before us today. The other panel members are John Brunton, who's the town planner. He's an expert member, Ian Stapleton, architect, who is also an expert member, and Paul Rogers, who is a community member.
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Meeting contents
- Welcome And Formalities
- SS - Pecuniary Interest Returns
- CP - S82A0001/21 - Lot 17 DP 255010, 6 Keda Circuit, North Richmond -
- CP - DA0196/20 - Lot 3 DP 270515, 88B Bulgamatta Road, Berambing -
- CP - DA0303/21 - Lot D DP 334004, 15 King Road, Wilberforce - (95498,
- Decisions Of Closed Session And Closing Of Meeting
Agenda item chapter 1
Welcome And Formalities
Morning.
Now, before I go any further, I would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of this land, the Darug people, their elders past and present. A couple of formal matters about conduct in the meeting. As a courtesy to others, please keep your microphones on mute at all times unless I call on you to speak.
The terms of Privacy and Personal Information Protection Act protect personal information provided at— sorry, I'll start that again. In the terms of the Privacy and Personal Information Protection Act, personal information provided at the meeting will be Recorded . Now, the provision of any information that is recorded is voluntary on your behalf. Any person who does not wish to be recorded should not address the panel. It's important that all the speakers understand this. Now, for the benefit of persons who will be addressing the panel, it's expected that you will refrain from making insult, allegation, or personal comment against any person, present or not at this meeting. This request relates to both your address to the meeting and any answers given in response to questions from the panel.
Now, under the panel's code of conduct, panel members are required to disclose any pecuniary and/or non-pecuniary interest in relation to the matters on today's agenda, and each panellist has completed a disclosure form. I personally declare I have no conflicts of interest in relation to today's agenda and have signed a form to that effect. And I just ask each of the panel members whether they have any conflicts of interest to declare. John Brumpton.
I don't have any conflicts of interest to declare. It should be noted, however, that I won't be participating in item two, which is the property in Keida Circuit, North Richmond, as I was a member of the original panel. And so, as this is a review of that decision, I won't be participating.
Thank you, John, and that's accepted. We'll still have three panel members who can decide on that item about the childcare centre, correct?
Yes.
Ian Stapleton.
I've got no conflict on any of the items.
Thank you. Paul Rogers.
No conflicts of interest on any item before the VR panel today.
Now, the panel has, in some— some members of the panel have done site visits of these matters that are before the panel today. I haven't been to any of them on this occasion because of the flooding through my plans into Ararat, but some of the members have been and looked at the sites. And in my case, where I haven't had a chance to look, I am aware of those localities. I've visited and have knowledge of Wilberforce and Barham being, and North Richmond, and I've looked at Google Maps and other resources that are provided with the applications. So we've also read assessment reports by the council officers and, of course, the material that's on the agenda for each item before the panel today.
So that's just an assurance to persons who are present today that the panel members are fully aware of the issues that are involved in these three matters. Now we're going to start going through the agenda very soon, but I'll just remind you a couple of things. Only those persons who have registered to speak will be permitted to address the panel,
And the making of submissions. is limited to three minutes to speak.
You then may be asked questions by the panel members, and that's a different matter. But in the initial speaking, we ask you to limit it to three minutes.
And I note that a couple of people have been registered already to speak.
Okay. So there's one other formal matter that I have to deal with, and that is the item one, the pecuniary interest returns. Just by way of explanation, when members are appointed to this panel and selected by Council, so the chair is appointed by the Minister and the other members are appointed by Council, there's a list of some 20 or maybe 15 names. They have to fill out a pecuniary— we all have to fill out a pecuniary interest return. There's been a technical glitch in those forms that's only just been revealed by Council, in that the timing to comply with the Act of lodging a pecuniary return was wrongly— pardon me — wrongly stated on the forms. In terms of substance of the disclosures, nothing will change in each of the members, and this is more relevant, obviously, right now for this meeting, for the four people, that includes myself, who are part of the panel today.
So the error is going to be corrected by renewed forms that properly state the exact date, but at least for today, the four panel members have made the correct disclosures, and just the form of those disclosures is going to be corrected after the meeting today. And so I nominally table those disclosures today prior to us determining these matters and hearing this matter, just so that there is no difficulty with the disclosures that the four panel members today have. It's a technical matter.
There's no need for any further discussion of it. Are the other panel members happy with the way I have addressed that?
Yes, I'm happy with that arrangement. Thank you.
Okay. So we'll now go to—
Louise, sorry to interrupt you, but you'll actually just need someone to first and second the recommendation for the pecuniary interests, if that's possible.
Yes, I'm sorry about that.
I'll move the recommendation. I'll second it.
Thank you very much, Jodie, pulling me up on meeting procedure. Thank you.
What I didn't say, of course, to members of the public is that what will happen is that we will hear from you, and then the panel will adjourn into a closed session to deliberate. This may take some time. Generally, then the panel decision will be either announced in public or more likely it will be confirmed in the official minutes, which will be available on the council's website, most likely by next Thursday. Is that understood by everyone participating in this meeting today?
I'm assuming yes. Okay.
Agenda item chapter 2
SS - Pecuniary Interest Returns
There's a list of some 20 or maybe 15 names. They have to fill out a pecuniary, we all have to fill out a pecuniary interest return. There's been a technical glitch in those forms that's only just been revealed by Council, in that the timing to comply with the Act of lodging a pecuniary return was wrongly, pardon me, wrongly stated on the forms. In terms of substance of the disclosures, nothing will change in each of the members, and this is more relevant, obviously, right now for this meeting, for the four people that includes myself who are conducting the, who are part of the panel today. So the error is going to be corrected by renewed forms that properly state the exact date, but at least for today, the four panel members have made the correct disclosures, and just the form of those disclosures is going to be corrected after the meeting today.
And so I nominally table those disclosures today prior to us determining these matters and hearing this matter, just so that there is no difficulty with the disclosures that the four panel members today have. It's a technical matter.
There's no need for any further discussion of it. The other panel members happy with the way I have addressed that?
Yes, I'm happy with that arrangement. Thank you.
Okay. So we'll now go to—
Louise, sorry to interrupt you, but you'll actually just need to someone to first and second the recommendation, or for the pecuniary interests, if that's possible.
Yes, I'm sorry about that.
I'll move the recommendation. I'll second it.
Thank you very much, Jody, pulling me up on meeting procedure. Thank you.
What I didn't say, of course, to members of the public is that the — what will happen is that we will hear from you, and then the panel will adjourn into a closed session to deliberate. This may take some time. Generally then the panel decision will be either announced in public, or more likely it will be confirmed in the official minutes, which will be available on the council's website, most likely by next Thursday. Is that understood by everyone participating in this meeting today?
I'm assuming yes. Okay, so we've actually now dealt with item one, which were the pecuniary interest returns.
Official meeting record
Council decision and source documents
Outcome: Unknown
Item documents
Agenda item chapter 3
CP - S82A0001/21 - Lot 17 DP 255010, 6 Keda Circuit, North Richmond -
Six key to circuit, North Richmond matter,
And we have a detailed... The DA number is S82A0001/21, and I note that it is a review of an earlier decision.
We have a detailed report on that DA in the papers starting at page five—
Sorry, starting at page seven. Is there anything further the Council officer who was involved in the assessment of this you want to say prior to me asking the speakers to start?
Can the Council officer who was involved in, who prepared this report, are they present today?
Yes. And could you just
State your name again, please?
My name is William Pillon. I'm a town planner employed at Hawkesbury Council.
Thanks, William. Is there anything further you wanted to add to this report today,
Right
Now in this meeting?
Since the reports have been prepared, the State Government has made changes to a number of SEPPs, which have been consolidated into a new series of SEPPs. So the report may refer to previous State Environmental Planning Policies that have been shifted and consolidated into a new grouping of names. It doesn't change the permissibilities or doesn't change the matters to be considered. There'll just be different references, and that's in accordance with the State Government's changes on the 1st of March. Okay,
Thank you for that, William. All right, now I have— I'll call now on,
Is Ms. Isabel Cueva Fernandez present?
Yes.
You're invited now to speak on this development, the childcare centre. Do you understand what I'm referring to?
Hello?
You need to take yourself off mute, Isabella.
Isabella, can you—
Are you able to speak now?
Would like to.
Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. It might be helpful if you state your name and what the issues you have in respect of the childcare centre. Now, can I just ask you another question? You've been appointed or asked or selected by a number of people who have objected to this development to speak on their behalf. Is that correct?
No.
No, it's not. Okay. So you're speaking just in respect of your own yourself. Is that right? Yes
I spoke to neighbours, but they haven't said that I should speak for them, but they agree with me, but— Yes
And you've got the papers for the meeting today, do you? Yes, I do. And you've read this report by the council officer? Yes. Okay, well, you now have three minutes, approximately. Yeah. We haven't got a stopwatch running, I don't believe, but we... Okay. State to the panel, this is your opportunity to state to the panel, who's going to decide this matter, what your concerns are about the proposed development at 6 Cedar Circuit, North Richmond, okay? Okay
So, I mean, the traffic congestion has already been mentioned by all the neighbours. So the first objection was like 121 people objecting, but every time there is less people, but the congestion is known because there is a school, there is a higher density coming up, and now with the childcare centre, 70 more cars will be involved in coming and going. At the times when the school comes, we can't people park. We can't just leave the area. It's just completely congested. The council addressed, came to look one day, and the study was done on one occasion, not on multiple occasions. Apart from that, the noise. You are saying that this is a medium density housing, but put 58 kids plus 20 staff plus all the cars in a residential area, which is a very quiet area.
full of retirees , it becomes like a birthday party non-stop, and this is a nightmare for us. When we bought the houses, it was on this premises that it was a quiet residential area. Now that there is a need maybe for a childcare centre, I agree with this, but this is not the right location because the traffic and there is not really a way around it. Maybe on the other side of North Richmond is better, is less congestion. And another thing that I would like the council to consider is that if all the neighbours have opposed this, I think that the council needs to take into consideration the well-being of neighbours and maybe not the business plan of one particular person.
That's
What I wanted
To say. Okay, thank you, Isabel. Has anyone got any— any of the panel members got any questions they'd like to ask Isabel?
Yes, Chair, I would, if I may.
That's granted, yes.
Yes, Isabel, it's Paul Rogers speaking. I'm the community rep on the panel. If you're comfortable, I'm actually looking at Google Maps at the moment, which provides a pictorial shot of the site. Are you able to indicate where do you live and/or where your concerns particularly are? What number?
I'm at 18 Kida Circuit, so it's— Almost behind the fence of the childcare center. My neighbor, she opposite too, but she's now in hospital,
Living next to me. She's exactly behind the childcare center. But as I said, she's in hospital now for cancer treatment. Yes,
Thank you. Thank you for that. Two other supplementals, if I may. You made mention of 70 cars accessing the site, no doubt on a daily basis. Where did you get that information from? It's not the information that's been made available to me. Where did you get 70? And I think you said there was something like 118 or 180 objections. So just— 21
I think. The first time the objections came, the first time people were invited, we went to talk to neighbors and, like, everybody complained . Then there was some reassessment and people had the opportunity to put motions again. And as everybody knows, people get tired and do it, so there were less. And then by the third time, it was less, but the people are still against it. But the 70 cars I get from 58 children plus 19 staff, and I'm not counting the— Yeah.
Yes, I see. I see. May I also ask, how long have you been a resident at number 18 there, a number of years?
Almost 11 years. And
In terms of noise from the RAF base, with the use of— Planes coming in on the flight path. What's the level of noise that you experience there in that vicinity?
Well, it is not a lot, because the planes fly occasionally, and they fly and they go off, so they just pass by, I don't know, it's a few minutes. While I'm a retired teacher. I retired because I have chronic migraines and I can't stand the noise. And I know that children play, scream, complain, fight. I mean, I've been a school teacher for so many years. I know that.
They do kid stuff. But in terms of noise, they're not totally intrusive.
No, because, for instance, I mean, we've been— it's just a few times a day, some days, and it's just a few minutes. Right
Well, thank you very much. Nothing further, Chair. Thank you. Okay,
Thank you. Thank you, Isabel, for your comments, and thank you for coming and attending the panel, attending the meeting.
Thank you for listening.
That's
Our job.
Now, there's listed here there are three people who are for this childcare centre at 6 Cedar Circuit. Is there someone here by the name of Charlie Bainey?
Good morning, panel members. How are you?
Good morning. So you're here, I think the name says Bainey Design. Yes,
So we're the designers for the development. We also have— we also have Brett de La Pierre, who's the town planner.
Oh, I was wondering who that was. Thank you. Yeah
And we also have Hayley, who's our traffic engineer.
Hayney, Hayney. It's not, it's spelt wrong. It's H-A-N-Y, is it? Not— Yeah, Hayney, yeah. Hayney.
Yeah.
Great. All right. So do you want to go first in speaking on behalf of the development?
Yeah, that's fine. And if you'd like me to introduce myself and start as well. So basically, as you're aware, Council have recommended approval for the 58 Place Childcare Centre.
I'm happy to speak on behalf of the applicant, and then you can throw to— Yeah, that's fine, if that's okay with the Chair.
Yes, absolutely. You decide which way you want to do it. You've
Got three
Minutes.
No, no. Thank you, Chair and fellow panel members. As has been outlined, this application was refused by the panel previously in April last year, and I'd like to say we've listened. The panel refused the application because it had a recommendation for refusal from Council staff with regards to a lack of outdoor play space and effectively too much hard surface in the front setback. So we refined the design, and the current design for 58 children complies with the requirements for outdoor and indoor play spaces outlined in the report. And also we were able to increase landscaping within the front setback, and that's probably reflected in the fact that Williams' report to the panel recommends approval of the application.
In terms of, I guess, briefly addressing Isabella's issues about traffic congestion and noise, as outlined in the report, this estate is an unusual one, is that there's the ability to exit the estate and enter the estate by foot from about three occasions, but there's only opportunity to enter and exit the estate by one. One vehicle point for car movements, but as outlined in Williams' report, there is a roundabout being constructed later this year that will ease those traffic concerns. And I note that notwithstanding that, that Council's traffic engineers are supportive of the proposal currently, having regards to the additional movements our childcare centre will generate. In terms of parking provisions, the RMS rate suggests that we should have 14 and a half spaces, and we provide 19 spaces in a basement car park.
With regards to the school traffic conflict, I'm sure as Council engineers and the panel's aware, is that a childcare centre, unlike a school, doesn't typically have concentrated pickup and drop-off times. It tends to be more ad hoc as people drop kids off at school, go to work, leave for work, so it's not a concentrated pickup and departure time like a school. In terms of noise, obviously, said we're 58 children, and we did submit an acoustic report that indicates that subject construction measures and the management measures outlined in the report, that noise from the centre shouldn't have an unacceptable impact on surrounding residential properties. So, yeah, we thank Council for the recommendation for approval.
We agree with it, and as a team, we're here and happy to answer any questions panel members may have with regards to the application. Okay
Do panel members want to hear from all three persons for the childcare, or ask questions now of Mr. Bayini?
I have a question, Chair .
Thank you. Yes, go ahead, Mr. Stapleton.
I'm speaking to Bayini, am I?
Yes, that's right, Charlie Bayini.
Right, thank you. I noticed there's a reference in the Council's report to an acoustic, and in the recommended conditions to.. . Acoustic report, which must be followed. The recommendations of acoustic report, which must be followed . But I, of course, I can't see the details. Does the acoustic report recommend closing all the windows?
I'll just have to open up the acoustic report and see. Just bear with me for a second.
Sorry, who's that speaking?
That's Charlie Bailey, sorry.
And I didn't quite hear what your response was.
I'll just open up the acoustic report now.
Oh, I'm very sorry. Take your time.
No, do as please possible.
And Madam Chair, it's Brad de Laffiere, the town planner as well. I'm also opening up the acoustic report, and I do have it open. And in terms of the question from Mr. Stapleton, Section 6.2 of the acoustic report prepared by RSA Acoustics says, In order to achieve compliance with Council's noise requirement for outdoor play, the following must be implemented. The window must follow the configuration shown in Figure 2.2. Windows can be open when children are not involved in indoor play or sleeping to allow for natural ventilation.
Well, can you hear me still?
I can hear you, Mr. Stapleton.
So windows can be open when the children aren't inside. Is that what you're saying?
No, no. The report says slightly different to that, Mr. Stapleton. It says windows can be open when children are not involved in indoor play or sleeping. So if there's passive activities such as children are participating in art classes, for example, or artwork, or listening to a story being read, the windows can be open. If they're pushing bicycles or similar toys around inside the childcare centre, or playing musical instruments, those kind of things, activities that are noisy, then the windows have to be shut. But what I call passive indoor activities, the windows are able to be open.
Is that left then to the people, the staff on site each day to determine?
That's correct. So obviously the educators are aware what activities are quiet and what activities are noisy. So if there's free play occurring within the indoor play areas, then the windows would be required to be shut. But if it's a structured element such as storytelling or artwork, then the windows could be open, and during sleep times the windows should be shut.
We've got a couple of supplementary questions out of that, Madam Chair. Yes, go ahead, Mr Stapleton. Is it proposed to air condition or mechanically ventilate the whole building then?
I'd ask the architect, Mr Bainey, to respond to that, please.
Yes, it will be air conditioned.
Thank you. Now, I believe there is a management plan, a draft management plan.
That's correct.
Does that management plan deal with this issue of when the windows are closed? Mr Stapleton
From memory, it requires the use of the centre to be consistent with the recommendations in the acoustic report. That's correct.
The use, the management plan requires the use of the place to be consistent with the acoustic report.
Is that what you
Said? That's correct, Mr Stapleton. The operations of the centre are required to be consistent with the acoustic report.
Do you think the operators there every day will have a copy of the acoustic report pinned to the wall or something?
Well, certainly it's possible, but if you're suggesting that it would be appropriate to update the management plan to specifically recommend the references in the acoustic report, that's certainly possible, but I'm sure the panel or council staff could write a condition to that effect.
You'd be happy with the condition of approval that included... Revision of the management plan regarding when the windows were open.
Yes, no, we would be very accepting of that because it's our intention to operate the centre in accordance with the recommendation of the acoustic report, and if there's additional measures to ensure that that occurs in the actual operation, we're certainly accepting and would encourage that.
I notice there's another condition about noise levels no more than 5 dB above ambient.
Is that correct?
Yes, that's my understanding that the recommendation from William includes that. I guess that's a fairly typical recommendation from Council's environmental health officer.
I saw it there in the conditions, in the recommended conditions. So that should keep everyone on their toes.
Yes, now look, as town planner for the applicant, we're certainly aware that acoustics is a critical issue in the operation of any childcare centre, and that's certainly why we've got the detailed acoustic report and carefully considered it, and we're certainly accepting of any condition that reinforces the need for the centre to operate in a manner that doesn't unduly disturb the amenity of the surrounding properties.
Thank you. Just while we're still on noise, what about outside? What proportion of the time are the children outside?
With regards to the acoustic report, there's no restrictions as to when the children can be outside. So unlike some centres and some acoustic reports that require only limited children to play outside, is that the — They can play outside all day. There are restrictions on the number of children from various age groups that can be outside at any time, and certainly that the centre operations take that. And I can read you from the acoustic reports that limits that out of the 58 children, there can be five children in the zero to two age groups outside, 10 in the two to three year age group, and 10 three to five age groups outside at any time. So that's certainly
As
A typical management so that there's not an extensive number of children outside at the same time generating a lot of noise. Typically, I guess that was what the objective was referring to with children, children's schools that she worked in, where there's typically the whole school would be outside at set play times.
Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr Stapleton. Any other questions of Mr Delapierre?
Yes, Madam Chair, if I may.
Yes.
Yes, Mr Delapierre, Paul Rogers, community representative. I've got Google Earth up again, and if you can do likewise, or at least I want to , I have a number of questions, but the first one leading off: the circuit is exactly that, a circuit. You would anticipate people driving up into Keita Circuit from Matheson Street. Do you envisage through traffic flow that there'd be a drop-off and a continuation around the circuit? In other words, around 14 , 18, 26, and then exiting along Matheson? Or do you anticipate somebody doing a three-point turn? Within Cedar Keyta Circuit and then going back out Matheson,
I'm just trying to get a visualisation in terms of the traffic flow. Are we going to have like a throughput flow, or are we going to have a backup and reverse out type flow?
Thank you, Mr Rogers. I envisage that, given there's a basement car park for 19 car parking spaces, that as you suggest, people would access the centre by coming off Grose Vale Road into Sunnyside Crescent, turning left into Matheson Avenue and then left into Keyta Circuit, and then turning right into the driveway at 6 Keyta Circuit into the basement car park, parking in that basement car park, and upon leaving they would turn left into Keyta Circuit and then right into Matheson. So I don't anticipate that there would be any traffic driving past the adjacent properties from 18 Keyta Circuit that we heard from. So there would be no need to do so. And having regards to the road network, most motorists, in my experience, would take the shortest route to exit the site, which would be back turning left out of the basement car park into Keyta Circuit and then right onto Matheson Avenue.
Being of human nature as we all are, you don't anticipate any drop-off at the front gate, as it were, or out on the street, and with the sort of the latchkeyed sort of approach where Johnny or Bessie are sort of waved off across the verge into the premises, do you?
No, Mr Rogers, I don't, given that it's a childcare centre and not a school. There's a requirement for children to be signed in and out and discussions with educators. So in that regard, there's, in my mind, it's different to a school where, as you say, you throw Johnny out of the car with the school bag and say, See you later. It's a childcare centre where the children need to be signed in and out each day. So on that basis, there's a need for the vehicle to stop and the guardian and the child to exit the vehicle at the same time to sign in. So on that basis, I think it's very likely that they would utilise the 19 spaces in the basement car park.
Right. If I may, Madam Chair, just extrapolate on this. Now, access into this part of North Richmond is a challenge at best through Sunnyside because of the way of the access and egress onto Grose Vale Road. And as we all know, there's a proposed. .. Roundabout going in there, and the community has mixed views on that, have made some fairly strong comments about the potential bottleneck, the frustration where the placement is for the pedestrian crossing to the school, etc.
The anticipated further development
At
The old Peels Dairy over there at Redbank. The data that I've read in the report seems to identify the existing traffic flows, the existing usage and anticipated usage of the flows dealing with that roundabout. Did you look at any sort of future projections that, with development with Redbank further down Gracevale Road, that that bottleneck argument that has been floated as a frustration is going to also be exacerbated with more cars here in Keilor Circuit? So I'm sort of looking to the future.
Can I interrupt for a minute? I don't know if this is directly relevant to the DA, that's the decision that's before us today. If you can keep it— Well,
It's only— If
There
Are any other
Questions you
Want to ask. It is relevant in terms of the actual statement that says it's currently sustainable. There is an application for Council to consider the roundabout, and I'm suggesting that there must be other statistics available as to the future projection. Is this just an ongoing frustration that there's going to be more cars? Well,
I'm not sure if Mr. De La Pierre can answer that, but do you want to comment at all, Mr. De La Pierre
Thank you, Chair. Look, I'm happy to give it a brief go at it. As you outlined, I'm a town planner, not a traffic engineer. In terms of our traffic report, it certainly considered the impact from the existing traffic. The comment I can make about— Yeah, and in respect of the intersection we're talking about, our traffic engineer and council traffic engineers were comfortable that, having regard to the existing situation, i.e. with the roundabout not constructed, that that intersection will have a satisfactory level of service. And our report and the traffic report from council notes that, you know, after the roundabout is constructed, there will be an improvement to it. In terms of did our traffic report consider other possible developments in the wider precinct, the answer to that is no.
In terms of whether council considered that, I'll be honest, it's a question best for council staff, but I would assume that council staff are aware of possible future developments in the immediate precinct. Yes
Thank you for that. Final question, if I may, Madam Chair. More a matter just for confidence and comfort to the community. Recently, Redbank, the area of Redbank, was subject to an evacuation because of certain threats during our flooding period. This particular site has no connection to that particular evacuation order. Is that correct?
Yes, my understanding is it doesn't. But again, I would suspect that council staff may be able to answer that question themselves.
All right. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Now we have two other speakers listed to speak for the childcare centre.
Mr. Hanny Takla, would you like to speak?
Hi, I've been a member. Sorry, can
You just— I'll just interrupt.
Can you hear me now? Yes,
You state your name and—
Yeah, Hanny Takla, traffic engineer from Mahimanot Consultant. We are the traffic engineer involved in this project from the beginning, and we did the traffic report, and we undertook all the analyses, SIDRA analysis around the intersection of Burrowsvale Road and Sunnyside Crescent. Just in addition of what Ms. Brad mentioned , the proposed traffic generation from the centre has been considered with the existing traffic at this intersection, and it came up that the future level of service of the intersection is not going to change or alter the level of service or the performance of the intersection as it is. And obviously, after the construction alter and about that's been mentioned by the council report, this will add extra traffic calming device and the relocation of the wombat pedestrian crossing.
This will improve the intersection further. But as the proposed development itself is not going to alter or change the condition of the traffic around this intersection. And may I add as well, the layout of the car park of the centre has been altered and improved by creating a turn area for the car to turn around within the basement and exit in forward direction instead of doing three-point turn on the street. So that's been included on the latest... The plan as well.
Okay. Is that— so, do the panel members have any further questions for Mr. Tackler, recognising that I think some questions have already been asked of Mr. De La Pierre about traffic, but is there anything anyone wants to ask Mr. Tackler, given he's a traffic engineer?
Mr. Tackler clarified a point that I was concerned about. Thank you. Oh
Thank you. Thank you Nothing
From me.
Okay. Now, does Mr. Bainy want to speak on behalf of the development? No,
No further comments from me, thank you.
Okay.
Now, Mr. Pillion, the council officer, is there anything that you wanted to say to assist the panel that's arisen out of those issues discussed with the proponents?
No, I think the majority of issues raised have been covered in the report.
Okay then. So, I think that's— if there's no other further person present who wants to speak either for or against the child proposed childcare centre at Six Keita Circuit, I think that's the end of that item. Madam
Chair, could I ask Mr. Pillion a question?
Yes, you may, Mr. Stapleton.
Just a question about my suggestion that we have a condition to amend the management plan in regard to the opening and closing of windows. Do you see that as feasible?
Yes, we can prepare conditions to that effect. There are some comments and documents in the management plan about review, about the use, and also complaints hotlines and how complaints will be dealt with if noise matters do arise as a result of keeping windows open during certain times of the day. But yes, we can address that with a condition.
My question— my object here would be just to define more fully what's— The passive and active
Use in site, it seemed a bit vague, and it also,
The availability of the requirement to close the windows doesn't seem very obvious
If it's not in the management plan, if it's only in the acoustic report. So that was my object. That's my object in suggesting to the panel in a few minutes that we have such a condition.
Yes, it can definitely be fleshed out and specified in the condition. Thank you.
Thank you very much, Mr. Pillion. So that is— There's no other— Through,
Madam Chair, if I may ask the council officer a question, please. For purposes of just clarity and for the record, and for those who don't live this side of the river, I asked a question of one of the applicant's representatives in relation to this site being potentially subject to the Redbank Dam evacuation order during our recent floods. It's not a self-serving question, but when that evacuation order was made, this side of the river in that part of the North Richmond area was committed to a state of panic. And bearing in mind that panic was short-lived and misdescription arose out of which dam was involved, I think when we're dealing with a topic dealing with 58-plus children, we need clarity. So just for the record, if I may, Madam Chair, could council give clarification that this site was outside the evacuation order recently associated with the Redbank Dam scare, please?
And the flooding, just add the word flooding event, I think
Yes.
Can you address that, Mr. Pillion?
Yeah, it was the subject site and Gracevale Road was outside of that evacuation area.
But as you pointed out, there was a misunderstanding as to which dams or components of Redbank were at risk to people in North Richmond. Yes,
Thank you for clarifying that. Thank you. Nothing more, Madam Chair.
Could I make one more comment about the acoustics, please?
Who is that speaking, sorry?
This is resident of Kita Circuit, number 18. I'm Isabel Cuevas' husband.
Oh, hi. We don't have your name. Just give me your full name, please.
My surname is Boer, B-O-E-R, and first name is Matias, M-A-T-T-H-I-A-S, and I've submitted in three rounds of submissions about this. Yes.
Well, normally you have to register to speak, but I will allow you to speak today as you're requesting. But you must confine your comments to three minutes, please.
I can do that. Thank you. Now, I just wanted to extend the questions of Mr. Stapleton, because my understanding is that the windows of the facility need to be closed when children are playing inside. I suppose that is to reduce noise leakage to the surrounding residents. So I wonder if windows need to be closed to reduce noise affecting residents around the childcare centre. The outside playing areas have no windows, as far as I know, and they play all day outside there. So how is that not a problem then? If playing inside creates noise to a level that windows need to be closed to reduce noise leakage to residents, how come that the outside playing areas, which can be used all day by a significant number of children, how come that that does not seem to be a problem for residents ?
And adults of the childcare centre staff speaking in loud voices to keep the children in check. I'd like a comment on that, please.
So who are you directing that to?
I guess Mr. Delapierre.
Are you there, Mr. Delapierre?
I am, Madam Chair. I'm happy to respond if you permit. Yes
Please. Could you please respond?
Yes, happy to. So in terms of the recommendation for the windows, my understanding is to do with the cumulative impact. So if we had children playing inside and outside at the time, the noise at the receivers, including the adjacent property, would be excessive. But with the windows closed during internal play and outdoor play still occurring, our acoustic report indicates that with the acoustic fences and the other measures, that the noise level received at surrounding properties will be acceptable and not cause undue nuisance. So the primary reason for the windows to be closed is not to have the indoor and outdoor play noise being received by surrounding properties. Mr
Delapierre, you are aware that of the acoustic report where actually... The noise levels were very close to or even exceeding the recommended levels, and as I outlined in my response, or my submission,
The acoustic report cannot really substantiate that there is a very small possibility that noise levels exceed that level. I think the measured noise levels are very close to the permitted levels. Noise scales, the decibel scale, is a logarithmic scale, if that makes sense to you. So one decibel above the norm is not just one decibel; that is actually quite a lot above the
Permitted noise level.
And I think you have made an idealised picture in that noise report, and there's still a very substantial risk that noise levels will exceed the permitted levels for much of the time. And I don't see in the reporting that there is any guarantee that that will not be the case.
Is there anything further you want to say, Mr.
Delapierre? Look, happy to certainly respond. There's a Table 5.5 in the acoustic report talks about the impacts of, you know, play activities at neighbouring residents, and you're right, it does talk about some DBA criteria, and it talks about in one table that one receiver, and I haven't gone through the report to where that is in relationship to the objective that just spoke, is that we predict that noise levels will be 32 dBA and the criteria is 41 dBA. So that criteria would be 9 dBA less. So we certainly acknowledge, and I guess Mr. Stapleton outlined earlier, that there is potential for noise to go above that, and that's why Council has imposed that 5 dBA above background noise condition. That's fairly standard, and we're obviously comfortable we can achieve that with the combination of management measures and physical construction measures that will occur as part of the project.
If I may, one more comment, please. Your prediction of noise levels have an uncertainty range, I suppose, because your predictions are not precise. Do you have any indications of how large those uncertainty margins are, and how likely you are going to go over the permitted noise levels, given that uncertainty? I didn't see that in your noise report. And
I guess first of all I should say I'm the town planner, not from Rodney Stevens Acoustics, and I'll be honest that the point of your last question, it goes above my technical abilities to respond. So. I
Think that's correct, Mr . Bohr, that it's not within Mr. De La Pierre's expertise what you are asking, a rather technical question about measurement of sound and the parameters that are involved. I think that I've given you, you know, significant— I've given you some— I've given you leave to speak without notice. Thank
You
That question, I think, can't really be answered now . Have you looked at the materials that relate to this development in today's meeting notes, and also you might want to look online on Council's website. Is there anything further you wanted to ask about? That's not related to noise, because I think that has been ventilated.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I just hope that the panel will take this uncertainty in predictions of noise levels into account when they make a decision. Okay
Thank you very much for that. We certainly listen very intently to what the neighbours and residents say in these matters. Now, is there anything, Mr. Pilly, you wish to add
To
The issues that Mr. Boor has raised?
No, it's the same in terms of the technical abilities and myself. I'm in the planning section, so I don't have the technical response.
Okay then. So there's no other further comment, or people want to speak or ask questions in relation to item two, which is the
Proposed daycare, six Kita circuit. I'm very sorry.
That was me. Madam Chair, it was phone. I'm very sorry about that. So if there's nothing further that anyone wants to say in respect of this item on the agenda today,
Am I right?
Okay. So we will move on.
Official meeting record
Council decision and source documents
Outcome: Carried
Panel Decision
The Panel unanimously resolved that:
Development application S82A0001/21 at Lot 17 DP 255010, 6 Keda Circuit North Richmond for S82A Review - Centre Based Child Care Facility - Demolition of Existing Structures, Construction of a 58 Place Centre-Based Child Care Facility, Outdoor Play Areas, Basement Car Parking and Landscaping be approved subject to the recommended conditions as listed below with condition 72. Updated to read as follows:
1. Plan of management
The approved plan of management for the centre-based child care facility listed in Condition 1 must be updated to include the following:
- (a) The Emergency Evacuation plan is required to be updated to refer to the floor plans endorsed as part of this consent.
- (b) a contact phone number of the centre's director should be made available to the parents and neighbors,
- (c) parents and guardians should be informed of the importance of noise minimisation when entering the site and dropping off or picking up children, and
- (d) staff parking spaces must be limited to being used by staff and clearly marked,
- (e) indoor play areas: the windows must follow the configuration shown in Figure 2-2, of the acoustic report referred to in condition 2 of this consent. Windows can be opened when children are not involved in indoor play to allow for natural ventilation, and
- (f) outdoor play areas: the children can engage in outdoor play at a time with the following configuration at any time:
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- i. 8x 0-2 year age groups and 20x 2-3 year age groups (playing at a different time to the 3-5 year old)
- ii. 15x 3-5 year age groups (playing at different time to the 0-2 and 2-3 year old).
The approved plan of management updated in accordance with this condition is to be submitted to the Principal Certifier prior to the issue of an Occupation Certificate. The development is to be carried out in accordance with the Plan of Management updated pursuant to this condition.
General Conditions
1. Approved Plans and Supporting Documentation
The development must be carried out in accordance with the approved plans and supporting documentation listed below, except where amended in red on the plans and/or amended by other conditions of this consent:
a) Plans Reference:
| Drawing Name | Prepared by | Drawing Number | Date |
|----------------------|---------------|------------------|------------|
| Compliance table | Bani design | 01 | 30/11/2021 |
| Demolition Plan | Bani design | 02 | 30/11/2021 |
| Site Plan | Bani design | 03 | 30/11/2021 |
| Basement Plan | Bani design | 05 | 30/11/2021 |
| Ground Floor Plan | Bani design | 06 | 30/11/2021 |
| First Floor Plan | Bani design | 07 | 30/11/2021 |
| Elevations | Bani design | 08 | 30/11/2021 |
| Sections | Bani design | 09 | 30/11/2021 |
| Schedule of Finishes | Bani design | 11 | 30/11/2021 |
b) Document Reference:
| Document Name | Reference | Prepared by | Date |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------|---------------------------------|-----------------------|
| Plan of Management | 6 Keda Circuit Richmond | Applicant | 27/07/2021 |
| Landscape Concept | L-01 | Outside in design | group17/01/2022 |
| Front Fence Detail | L-02 | Outside in design | group17/01/2022 |
| Landscape Structural Works | L-04 | Outside in design | group17/01/2022 |
| Traffic & Parking Statement and addendum letters to traffic and parking assessments | Report Addendum letter Addendum letter | Heamanote consultants10/12/2020 | 20/07/2021 14/12/2021 |
| Stormwater Concept Design Plans | Reference 20200110, revision H | SGC Consulting | 22/12/21 |
| Statement of Environmental Effects | 6 Keda Circuit Richmond | Think planners | 27/07/2021 |
| Acoustic report | 2001554R1 revision 4 | Rodney Stevens Acoustics | 27/07/2021 |
| Access report | 20146 | Vista access architects | 30/06/2021 |
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| Document Name | Reference | Prepared by | Date |
|-----------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------|------------------------------------|------------------------------|
| Geotechnical report | G20551-1 | Geotechnical consultants Australia | 14/12/2020 |
| Arboricultural impact assessment and tree management plan | 6 Keda Circuit North Richmond | Horticultural management services | 06/10/2021 Amended 21/1/2022 |
No works, other than those approved (including raising or lowering of ground levels on the site, or construction of retaining walls on any property boundary) are permitted by this consent.
Note: Details of the development shown in the approved plans and documents referenced are altered in the manner indicated by:
- (i) any amendments made by Council on the approved plans or documents;
- (ii) any notes, markings, or stamps on approved plans or documents; and
- (iii) any conditions contained in this consent.
2. Construction Certificate Required Prior to Commencement of Works
Construction or preparatory work (including earthworks or tree and/or vegetation removal) must not commence until:
- a) a Construction Certificate as relevant from either Council or a registered certifier has been obtained (a fee is payable for this service);
- b) a Principal Certifier has been appointed; and
- c) a Notice of Commencement has been lodged with Council.
Note: If a Construction Certificate is issued by a registered certifier (and not Council), it will be necessary to lodge the Construction Certificate and other approved documents with Council within two days of such approval (a registration fee is payable upon lodgement).
3. Appointment of a Principal Certifier
No work shall commence until:
- a) A Principal Certifier is appointed for the building/engineering works and the following details relating to the carrying out of the works have been provided:
2. (i) name and licence number of the builder/contractor undertaking the construction works; or
3. (ii) name and permit number of the owner-builder (if relevant);
- b) The Principal Certifier has:
5. (i) provided a copy of the notice of its determination to the consent authority, and to Council (within two days after the date of the determination);
6. (ii) notified the person having benefit of the consent of any critical stage inspections and other inspections that it requires to be carried out in relation to the approved work;
7. (iii) notified Council of its appointment (not less than two days before commencement of building work);
- c) The person having benefit of the consent (if not carrying out work as an ownerbuilder) has:
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- (i) appointed a principal contractor who must hold a 'contractor licence' if any residential building work is involved;
- (ii) notified the Principal Certifier of the appointment of the principal contractor;
- (iii) notified the principal contractor of any critical stage inspections or any other inspections that are required to be carried out in relation to the approved work; and
- d) At least two days' notice are to be provided to Council of the date on which it is proposed to commence work associated with this development consent.
4. Section 6.16(1) Certificates Required
Any registered certifier shall provide copies of all Section 6.16(1) certificates issued under the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act 1979 relevant to this development to Council within seven days of issuing the certificate.
Note:
A registration fee applies
5. Signage
No signage is approved as part of this consent. A separate development consent must be obtained to authorise the display of signage on the site.
6. Prescribed Conditions - Compliance with National Construction Code
All building works must be carried out in accordance with the requirements of the National Construction Code (Building Code of Australia).
7. Civil Works Specification Compliance
All civil construction works required by this consent shall be undertaken in accordance with Hawkesbury Development Control Plan Appendix E Civil Works Specification . Inspections shall be carried out and compliance certificates issued by Council or a Certifier.
8. Works on Public Land - Not Permitted Without Approval
No work can be undertaken within adjoining public lands (i.e. Parks, Reserves, Roads etc.) without the prior written consent of Council or other relevant authority. In this regard the person having benefit of the consent is to contact Council prior to the commencement of any design works or preparation of a Construction and Traffic Control Plan.
The developer must bear the cost of all works associated with the development that occurs on public land, including the restoration of damaged areas.
9. Civil Works
Council requires the following works to be carried out as part of the development:
- a) earthworks;
- b) access and car parking works;
- c) stormwater drainage work;
- d) on-site-detention system;
All civil construction works required by this consent must be undertaken in accordance with Hawkesbury Development Control Plan Appendix E Civil Works Specification.
A Construction Certificate is required to be in force prior to work commencing. It may be necessary to obtain appropriate Compliance Certificates for certain aspects of the development prior to the issue of a Construction Certificate.
Inspections must be carried out either by Council or a Certifier. Should Council be engaged to issue compliance certificates or carry out inspections, fees can be provided on request.
10. Occupation Certificate Required Prior to The Use Of The Building
The building must not be occupied or used prior to the issuing of an Occupation Certificate by the Principal Certifier. Where a partial Occupation Certificate has been issued, only that part of the building to which the Certificate applies may be occupied or used.
A copy of any Occupation Certificate must be submitted to Council within two days of its issue
11. Asbestos Removal
If asbestos is encountered during construction or demolition work, measures must be in place in accordance with SafeWork NSW guidelines and the Occupational Health & Safety Regulation 2001 . Work shall not commence or continue until all the necessary safeguards required by SafeWork NSW are fully in place.
Only contractors who are appropriately licensed for asbestos disposal by SafeWork NSW may carry out the removal and disposal of asbestos from demolition and construction sites.
Prior to commencing demolition of buildings containing asbestos, a commercially manufactured sign containing the words "DANGER ASBESTOS REMOVAL IN PROGRESS" measuring 400mm x 300mm shall be erected in a prominent visible position on the site in accordance with Australian Standard AS 1319 - 'Safety Signs for the Occupational Environment'.
The person entitled to act on this consent shall notify adjoining residents in writing five working days prior to the demolition.
Asbestos waste must only be disposed of at a landfill site authorised to receive such waste. All receipts and supporting documentation must be retained in order to verify lawful disposal and are to be made available to Council on request.
12. Excavation - Archaeology
If any Aboriginal or European object (including evidence of habitation or remains) is uncovered during the course of the work:
- a) all work must stop immediately in that area; and
- b) the NSW Office of Environment and Heritage and Council must be advised of the discovery.
Note: Depending on the significance of the object uncovered, an archaeological assessment and excavation permit under the Heritage Act 1997 may be required before further work can continue.
If an Aboriginal object is discovered, an Aboriginal heritage impact permit may be required under the National Parks and Wildlife Act 1974 .
13. Vegetation Removal
Waste resulting from the approved clearing of the site shall be salvaged for re-use, either in log form, or as a woodchip mulch for erosion control and/or site rehabilitation. Non-salvageable material such as roots, stumps or declared weed species shall be disposed of in an approved manner.
No vegetative material is to be disposed of by burning on-site.
Separate approval is required for the removal of any vegetation in the road reserve. Native vegetation in the road reserve is required to be protected during construction under the supervision of an appropriately qualified arborist (AQF Level 5).
Prior to the Issue of a Construction Certificate
14. Sydney Water - Section 73 Compliance Certificate
A Section 73 Compliance Certificate under the Sydney Water Act 1994 must be obtained. The application must be made through an authorised Water Servicing Coordinator. For details refer to Sydney Water's website.
Following application, a 'Notice of Requirements' will be forwarded detailing water and/or sewer extensions to be built and charges to be paid. Please make early contact with the Coordinator, since building of water/sewer extensions can be time consuming and may impact on other services and building, driveway or landscape design.
The 'Notice of Requirements' or Section 73 Certificate must be submitted to the certifier prior to the issue of any Construction Certificate.
15. Erosion and Sediment Control Plan (ESCP)
Prior to the issue of the Construction Certificate, an updated Erosion and Sediment Control Plan (ESCP) must be submitted to the certifier. The ESCP must show the location of site boundaries, adjoining roads, approximate grades, vegetation, site access, impervious areas, existing and proposed site drainage and a north point.
The ESCP must take into account the requirements of Landcom's publication Managing Urban Stormwater - Soils and Construction (2004) . The plan should show the following:
- a) timing of works
- b) nature and extent of earthworks, including the amount of any cut and fill
- c) where applicable the diversion of runoff from upslope lands around the disturbed areas
- d) location of all soil and other material stockpiles including topsoil storage
- e) location and type of proposed erosion and sediment control measures
- f) site rehabilitation proposals
- g) frequency and nature of maintenance program
16. Engineer Designed Pavement Commercial
The carpark pavement must be designed by a qualified civil/geotechnical engineer and certified to be satisfactory for the expected traffic loadings. AUSTROADS Guide to Pavement Technology can be used as the design guideline for the pavement design.
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The above details must be incorporated on appropriate submitted plans prior to the issue of the Construction Certificate to the satisfaction of the Certifier.
17. Basement Parking Turning Bay
The basement car parking area must incorporate/replace a parking space with a dedicated turning bay to allow vehicles to enter and exit in a forward direction in the case that all spaces are occupied. A turning bay and swept paths to show practical entry and exit must be incorporated on plans prior to the issue of a Construction Certificate by the Certifier.
18. Car Parking and Allocation of Spaces
Car parking spaces shall be provided in accordance with the approved plans, National Construction Code (Building Code of Australia) & AS 2890.6 - 'Parking facilities: Off-street parking for people with disabilities'. The minimum number of spaces provided shall be as follows:
18 - Staff/Visitor
- 1 - Accessible Car Spaces
- 1- Turning Bay
All car parking spaces are to be identified by line-marking and appropriate signposting.
Details demonstrating compliance with the above requirements must be submitted to the Certifier prior to issue of the Construction Certificate.
19. Driveway Construction - Commercial in Council Road Reserve
An 'Agreement Form for Driveways' must be submitted to Council prior to the issue of a Construction Certificate. Evidence of lodgement and payment for this application must be provided to the Certifier.
The vehicular crossing must:
- a) have a minimum width of six metres within the road reserve;
- b) not impact the quality and health of the street trees;
- b) not interfere with existing public infrastructure;
- c) have a sealed finish;
- d) be constructed in accordance with Hawkesbury Council's 'Driveway Specification' and Hawkesbury Development Control Plan 2002 - Appendix E - Civil Works Specification.
Note: The Agreement Form for Driveways and the Driveway Specification are available from Council's website.
20. Vehicle Entry and Exit from Commercial/Industrial Property
The vehicular usage of the site must be constructed to comply with the following requirements:
- a) all vehicles must be loaded and unloaded entirely within the property in a safe and practical manner;
- b) all vehicles shall be driven in a forward direction at all times when entering and leaving the premises; and
- c) vehicles entering and exiting the site must not create queuing which adversely affects vehicles travelling on the public road network.
Loading and unloading areas are to be clearly designated and the swept paths of the longest vehicle entering and exiting the subject site must be in accordance with:
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- a) Australian Standard AS 2890.1 - 'Parking facilities - Off-street car parking'; and
- b) Australian Standard AS 2890.2 - 'Parking facilities - Off-street commercial vehicle facilities'.
Details demonstrating compliance with the above requirements must be submitted to the Certifier prior to issue of the Construction Certificate.
21. Public Safety - Clear Pedestrian Sight Lines
Clear pedestrian sight lines are to be provided at the driveway entry in accordance with Figure 3.3 of Australian Standard AS 2890.1 - 'Parking facilities - Off-street car parking'. This requires that there be no boundary/retaining wall, fence or landscaping higher than 900 millimetres within a 2.5 metres by 2 metres sight triangle at each side of the entryway to the site. Any walls/fences/landscaping are to be adjusted in order to comply with this requirement.
Details demonstrating compliance with these requirements are to be submitted to the Certifier prior to the issue of the Construction Certificate.
22. Redundant Vehicular Layback
All redundant vehicular layback crossing(s) must be removed and replaced with kerb and gutter to match adjacent road construction and infrastructure. This work must be carried out at the developer's expense, including all alterations of public infrastructure where necessary.
Details demonstrating compliance with these requirements are to be submitted to the Certifier prior to the issue of the Construction Certificate
23. Redundant Driveway from Kerb to Property Boundary
Any redundant vehicular concrete driveway must be removed and the area appropriately turfed and/or paved in a manner that conforms to the adjoining road reserve. The area forward of the front boundary must be kept smooth, even and free from any trip hazards. This work must be carried out at the developer's expense, including all alterations of public infrastructure where necessary.
Details demonstrating compliance with these requirements are to be submitted to the Certifier prior to the issue of the Construction Certificate
24. Detailed Drainage Design Commercial/Industrial
A detailed drainage design of the site must be submitted to and approved by Certifier prior to the release of the Construction Certificate. The detailed plan must:
- a) be generally in accordance with Stormwater Concept Design Plans prepared by SGC Consulting Engineers with Reference 20200110 revision H dated 22/12/21;
- b) be designed such that stormwater overflow from the detention basin must not discharge from any of the upstream inlet pits;
- c) drain to the street;
- d) indicate the method of disposal of all stormwater and must include existing ground levels, finished surface levels on all paved areas, estimated flow rates, invert levels and sizes of all pipelines;
- e) be to the satisfaction of the Principal Certifier;
- f) be designed to cater for a 1 in 20 year Average Recurrence Interval storm event;
- g) show details of any overflow drainage paths and that they be designed to cater for 1 in 100 year Average Recurrence Interval storm event; and
- h) comply with Council's Hawkesbury Development Control Plan 2002 - Appendix E and Australian Standard AS 3500 - 'Plumbing and Drainage' unless a variation is specifically noted and approved by the Development Application concept drainage plan.
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25. Structural Engineers Design - Concrete and Structural Steel
A qualified Structural Engineer's design for all reinforced concrete and structural steel must be provided to the Accredited Certifier prior to issue of Construction Certificate.
26. Structural Engineers Design - Deep Pits
All pits deeper than three metres must be designed by a certified structural engineer and be in accordance with Australian Standard AS 3600 - 'Concrete Structures'. Pits deeper than 1.2 metres must have step irons and pits deeper than 1.8 metres are to be reinforced concrete. Details to this effect must be incorporated on the detailed drainage design that is submitted to the Certifier prior to issue of the Construction Certificate.
27. Pit Grates
All pits must have flush fitting grates. All pits larger than 600mm x 600mm are to be grated galvanised steel grid hinged and be heavy duty type where traffic loading is expected details to this effect are to be included on plans submitted to the Certifier prior to issue of the Construction Certificate.
28. Overland Flow
The development shall not create adverse impacts to neighbouring properties in relation to overland flow and must meet the following requirements:
- a) water flowing from the property must not be redirected or concentrated to adjoining properties;
- b) water flowing into the property from adjoining lots shall not be impeded or diverted; and
- c) water flow shall follow the natural flow directions without increasing velocity.
Details demonstrating compliance with the above must be provided to the Certifier prior to the issue of a Construction Certificate.
29. On Site Stormwater Detention Design Compliance
On-Site Detention (OSD) for stormwater is required to be provided for this development. Details including calculations are to be shown on plans submitted for the Construction Certificate to the Satisfaction of the Certifier. OSD must comply with the following:
- a) OSD shall be provided to maintain all stormwater discharges for storms up to the 1 in 100 Average Recurrence Interval storm event at pre-development levels; and
- b) the OSD system is to be designed in accordance with the Hawkesbury Development Control Plan - Appendix E, Civil Works Specification (Part 1 - Design Specifications and Part 2 - Construction Specifications).
Details demonstrating compliance with the above requirements must be submitted to the Certifier prior to issue of the Construction Certificate.
30. Structural Engineers Design - Adequacy of Adjoining Properties (Excavation Works)
A report must be prepared by an appropriately qualified and practising structural engineer certifying the structural adequacy of structures on neighbouring lots 8 Keda Circuit & 4 Keda Circuit to withstand the proposed excavation required for the development.
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This report is also to detail any measures required to be implemented to ensure that no damage will occur to adjoining properties during the course of the works.
Details demonstrating compliance with the above requirements must be submitted to the Certifier prior to issue of the Construction Certificate.
31. Dilapidation Survey - Private Property (Neighbouring Buildings)
A dilapidation report of adjoining properties (4 Keda Circuit and 8 Keda Circuit) detailing the physical condition of those properties, both internally and externally, including, but not limited to, such items as walls, ceilings, roof, structural members and other similar items. The survey and report is to be prepared by an appropriately qualified person agreed to by both the applicant and the owner of the adjoining property.
All costs incurred in achieving compliance with this condition shall be borne by the person entitled to act on this Consent.
In the event that access for undertaking the dilapidation report is denied by an adjoining owner, the applicant must demonstrate, in writing, to the satisfaction of Certifier that all reasonable steps have been taken to obtain access and the affected property owner has been advised of the reason for the survey and that these steps have failed. Written concurrence must be obtained from the consent authority in such circumstances.
Details demonstrating compliance with the above requirements must be submitted to the Certifier prior to issue of the Construction Certificate.
Note: This documentation is for record keeping purposes only, and may be used by an applicant or affected property owner to assist in any action required to resolve any dispute over damage to adjoining properties arising from the works. It is in the applicant's and adjoining owner's interest for it to be as full and detailed as possible.
32. Fitout Details
Plans are required to show all internal fittings required for the facility, including laundry facilities, internal bin/waste storage areas, food preparation facilities, mechanical plant, acoustic measures and storage.
Plans are to demonstrate that the internal fittings will not encroach into the minimum 189sqm unencumbered space requirement for 58 children.
Details in accordance with the above must be submitted to the Principal Certifying Authority prior to issue of a Construction Certificate.
Any loss of unencumbered space will be required to be assessed and considered as part of a modification application prior to the issue of any construction certificate for the development.
33. Landscape Plan
A detailed landscape plan, prepared by a qualified landscape architect, must be provided consistent with the plans approved as part of this consent.
The landscape plan must demonstrate that acoustic walls, retaining walls, garden beds and landscaped areas within the outdoor play areas do not encroach into the minimum 406 square metre unencumbered space requirement for 58 children.
Details in accordance with the above must be submitted to the Principal Certifying Authority prior to issue of a Construction Certificate.
Any loss of unencumbered space will be required to be assessed and considered as part of a modification application prior to the issue of any construction certificate for the development.
34. Retaining Wall Detail
Retaining wall construction details along property boundaries must be shown on the plans. All components of retaining walls, including setbacks, drainage and materials are to be designed so that they do not encroach into the outdoor unencumbered space of the Centre-Based Child Care Facility.
Details in accordance with the above must be submitted to the certifier prior to issue of a Construction Certificate.
Any loss of unencumbered space will be required to be assessed and considered as part of a modification application prior to the issue of any construction certificate for this development.
35. Long Service Levy Payment
The payment of a long service levy as required under Part 5 of the Building and Construction Industry Long Service Payments Act 1986 is required. Evidence that the levy has been paid, is to be submitted to the certifier prior to the issue of any Construction Certificate.
Note: All building works in excess of $25,000 are subject to the payment of a Long Service Levy at the rate of 0.35%. Payments can be made at Long Service Payments Corporation offices or most councils.
36. Access for Persons with a Disability
Details demonstrating compliance with Australian Standard AS 1428.1 - 'Design for Access and Mobility and Disability (Access to Premises - Buildings) Standards 2010' in relation to the development are to be submitted to the certifier prior to issue of a Construction Certificate.
37. Noise Generating Premises - Acoustic Certification
The recommendations contained in the Acoustic Impact Assessment report prepared by Rodney Stevens, dated 27/07/2021 must be incorporated into the design and construction of the development.
A suitably qualified acoustic consultant shall be engaged to assist with the preparation of the final building plans and specifications to ensure compliance with any acoustic conditions. Details demonstrating compliance with this requirement must be submitted to the certifier prior to issue of the Construction Certificate.
38. Vermin and Pest Management
The design of the waste storage areas shall incorporate measures to eliminate or minimise the potential for birds, rodents, flies and other pests to congregate in those areas.
39. Food Premises - Design
To ensure that adequate provision is made for the cleanliness and maintenance of all food preparation areas, all building work in connection with the occupation or use of the premises for the preparation and storage of food shall be designed and carried out in accordance with the requirements of:
- a) Food Act 2003 ;
- b) Food Regulation ;
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- c) Australian Standard AS 4674 - 'Design, construction and fit-out of food premises';
- d) Sydney Water Corporation;
- e) Protection of the Environment Operations Act and associated Regulations; and
- f) National Construction Code (Building Code of Australia).
Plans and specifications which comply with this condition must be submitted to the certifier for approval prior to the issue of any Construction Certificate. The Construction Certificate plans and documentation must incorporate details of the following:
- a) construction, materials and finishes;
- b) installation of fixtures, fittings and equipment;
- c) washing facilities, other facilities and special requirements;
- d) mechanical ventilation and exhaust discharges; and
- e) temperature control
40. Infrastructure Upgrades
The following works are required to be undertaken to upgrade infrastructure in the road reserve fronting the development. This work must be carried out at the developer's expense, including all alterations of public infrastructure where necessary:
- a) Construction of a 1.2 metre wide paved pedestrian footpath along the frontage of the development in order to accommodate the increased foot traffic associated with the proposed land use,
- b) All redundant vehicular layback crossing(s) must be removed and replaced with kerb and gutter to match adjacent road construction and infrastructure.
- c) Removal of poor quality soil to a depth of 100mm within the road reserve and replacement with rich topsoil and turf for the entire lot frontage
- d) Replacement of dilapidated service lids; and
Details are to be provided to the certifier prior to the issue of the Construction Certificate.
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41. Principal Certifying Authority - Details
The applicant shall advise Council of the name, address and contact number of the Principal Certifier, in accordance with Section 81A 2(b) of the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act 1979 .
42. Toilet Facilities
Toilet facilities must be available or provided at the work site before works begin and must be maintained until the works are completed at a ratio of one toilet plus one additional toilet for every 20 persons employed at the site.
Each toilet must:
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- a) be a standard flushing toilet connected to a public sewer, an approved on-site effluent disposal system or temporary chemical closet that is regularly maintained; and
- b) provide appropriate facilities for the disposal of sanitary items within the toilet.
43. Support and Protection for Neighbouring Buildings
If an excavation associated with the approved development extends below the level of the base of the footings of a building on an adjoining property the person having the benefit of this consent must, at that person's own expense:
- a) protect and support the adjoining premises from possible damage from the excavation;
- b) where necessary, underpin the adjoining premises to prevent any such damage; and
- c) provide a minimum seven days written notice to the owners/occupiers of adjoining properties giving details of the excavation and the proposed method of support of the excavated area.
The proponent is liable for any part of the cost of work carried out for the purposes of this condition whether carried out on the development site or on any adjoining land.
44. Survey Certificate - Building to be Verified by a Registered Surveyor
In order to ensure compliance with approved plans, a Survey Certificate, prepared by a Registered Surveyor, including locating any easements affecting the subject land, is to be undertaken. A set-out survey must be provided prior to any excavation, placement of footing and pouting of concrete showing its relationship of works to property boundaries.
Progress certificates shall be submitted to the Principal Certifier at the time of carrying out relevant progress inspections. Under no circumstances is work allowed to proceed should such survey information be unavailable or reveal discrepancies between the approved plans and the works as constructed.
45. Notice of Commencement
No work shall commence until a notice of commencement has been provided to Council. This notice is to be provided not less than two days from the date on which it is proposed to commence work associated with this Development Consent. The notice must also contain:
- a) details of the appointment of a Principal Certifier providing name, address and telephone number; and
- b) details of the name, address and licence details of the Builder.
46. Principal Certifier Site Sign
A sign must be erected in a prominent position on any site on which building work, subdivision work or demolition work is being carried out:
- a) showing the name, address and telephone number of the Principal Certifier for the work;
- b) showing the name of the principal contractor (if any) for any building work and a telephone number on which that person may be contacted outside working hours; and
- c) stating that unauthorised entry to the work site is prohibited.
Any such sign is to be maintained while the building work, subdivision work or demolition work is being carried out, but must be removed when the work has been completed.
47. Safety Fencing
The site is to be secured by a fence, in accordance with SafeWork NSW requirements, to prevent unauthorised access during the period of all works.
Entry and exit points shall be secured at all times to prevent the unauthorised entry of vehicles, and to ensure that the site manager can control and prevent dumping of waste and potentially contaminated material whilst fill material is being imported or managed on site.
48. Demolition - General
All demolition works must be carried out in accordance with the following:
- a) all demolition work shall be carried out strictly in accordance with Australian Standard AS 2601 - 'The Demolition of Structures';
- b) demolition works involving the removal and disposal of asbestos cement must only be undertaken by contractors who hold a current SafeWork 'Demolition License' and SafeWork 'Class 2' (Restricted) Asbestos License and comply with SafeWork's 'Guide to Working with Asbestos';
- c) site safety/security fencing shall be provided prior to commencement of any work on-site and shall be removed only when all hazards, including site waste, have been removed. The site safety/security fencing shall comply with the following Australian Standards:
4. (i) Demolition Sites - Australian Standard AS 2601 - 'Demolition of structures';
5. (ii) Construction Sites - Australian Standard AS 4687 - 'Temporary fencing and hoardings';
6. (iii) Ongoing Site Safety/Security - Australian Standard AS 1725 - 'Chain-link fabric security fencing and gates';
- d) demolition work shall be carried out only between the hours of 7am to 6pm Mondays to Fridays and 8am to 4pm Saturdays. No work is to be carried out on Sundays or public holidays;
- e) no trees shall be removed from the site unless they are shown for removal on the approved plans, or separately approved by Council;
- f) erosion and sediment control measures shall be installed prior to any demolition works commencing and maintained in accordance with the requirements contained in the Hawkesbury Development Control Plan 2002;
- g) all waste on the site is to be stored, handled and disposed of in such a manner as to not create air pollution (including odour), offensive noise or pollution of land and/or water;
- h) public footways and roadways adjacent to the site must be fully maintained and cleared of obstructions during construction. No building materials, waste containers or skips may be stored on the road reserve or footpath without prior separate approval from Council;
- i) any materials stored on site must be stored away from any drainage path or easement, natural watercourse;
- j) demolition activity shall not cause damage to or adversely affect the structural integrity of adjoining buildings;
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- k) waste must be transported to a place which can lawfully accept it. All non-recyclable demolition materials are to be disposed of at an approved waste disposal depot in accordance with legislation;
- l) no material is to be burnt on site;
- m) details as to the method and location of disposal of demolition materials (weight dockets, receipts, etc.) should be kept on site as evidence of approved methods of disposal and recycling; and
- n) the site shall be grassed or otherwise rendered erosion resistant immediately upon completion of demolition.
The demolition work plans and a statement of compliance with the above requirements shall be submitted to the satisfaction of the Principal Certifier prior to the commencement of works.
49. Demolition - Work Plans
The demolition work must comply with the provisions of Australian Standard AS 2601 - 'The Demolition of Structures'. The work plans required by Australian Standard AS 2601 - 'The Demolition of Structures' must be accompanied by a written statement from a suitably qualified person that the proposals contained in the work plan comply with the safety requirements of the Standard.
The work plans and the statement of compliance must be submitted and be to the satisfaction of the Principal Certifier prior to the commencement of works.
50. Demolition - Notice
- a) Notice is to be given to Council of the date on which it is proposed to commence demolition. This notice shall:
2. (i) be given not less than two days before the date on which it is proposed to commence demolition work;
3. (ii) provide details of the name, contact details of the demolisher/contractor undertaking the work;
4. (iii) provide the relevant SafeWork license details of the demolisher/contractor; and
5. (iv) details of the demolisher/contractor's current Public Liability/Risk Insurance Policy providing for a minimum cover of $10 million.
- b) Notice is to be given to adjoining property owners of the date on which it is proposed to commence demolition. This notice shall:
7. (i) be given not less than two days before the date on which it is proposed to commence demolition work;
8. (ii) provide details of the name, contact details of the demolisher/contractor undertaking the work; and
9. (iii) provide the telephone number of SafeWork NSW Asbestos/Demolition Hotline 1800 672 718.
51. Site to be Maintained Clean and Tidy During Construction
The site shall be kept clean and tidy during the construction period and all unused building materials and rubbish shall be removed from the site upon completion of the project. The following restrictions apply during construction:
- a) Stockpiles of topsoil, sand, aggregate, spoil or other material shall be stored clear of any drainage path or easement, natural watercourse, footpath, kerb or road surface and shall have measures in place to prevent the movement of such material off site.
- b) Building operations such as brick cutting, washing tools, concreting and bricklaying shall be undertaken only within the site.
- c) Builders waste must not be burnt or buried on site. All waste must be contained and removed to a Waste Disposal Depot.
52. Construction Management Plan
A Construction Management Plan must be submitted to and reviewed by Council prior to the commencement of works.
The Construction Management Plan must include the following:
- a) Summary
A concise (maximum three page) summary of key points from all documentation.
- b) Background
Provide details of the proposed works including the extent, staging and proposed timing of the works.
c) Consultation
The manner in which adjoining property owners will be kept advised of the timeframes for completion of each phase of development/construction process and the establishment of a protocol for complaints handling and management.
- d) Noise
Details in relation to how works will be undertaken in accordance with the Interim Construction Noise Guideline published by the NSW Environment Protection Authority.
e) Dust
Details in accordance with the Dust Management Measures condition requirements.
f) Vibration
A Vibration Compliance Letter in accordance with the relevant vibration condition requirements.
g) Traffic
A Detailed Traffic Management Plan in accordance with the Traffic Management Plan condition requirements.
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h) Soil and Water Management
Detailed Soil and Water Management Plan in accordance with the Soil and Water Management Plan condition requirements.
i) Water Quality Assessment and Monitoring
A report clearly detailing planned water quality monitoring proposed for the development.
- j) Any site specific Heritage and Archaeological Management.
- k) Any site specific Ecological Impact Mitigation Measures.
During Construction
53. Critical Stage Inspections
Prior to the commencement of building work and at nominated stages during the construction of the building, a minimum of 48 hours' notice is required to be provided to allow the Principal Certifier to ensure that the critical stage inspections are undertaken.
Note: Critical stage inspections are required to be carried out in accordance with Clause 162A of the Environmental Planning & Assessment Regulation 2000 .
54. Termite Treatment
The development must be treated for termites in accordance with the National Construction Code and Australian Standard AS 3660.1 - 2014 - 'Termite Management - New Building Work' by a suitably qualified, licenced person.
A Certificate of Compliance is to be provided to the Principal Certifier and a Notice of Treatment is to be provided to the metre box.
55. Inspections by Principal Certifier
Inspections shall be carried out and compliance certificates issued by Council or an registered certifier for the components of construction detailed in Hawkesbury Development Control Plan 2002 - Appendix E Civil Works Specifications, Part II, Table 1.1.
56. Sydney Water - Endorsement of Approved Plans
The approved plans must be submitted to and endorsed by Sydney Water via the 'Sydney Water Tap-in' website to determine whether the development will affect Sydney Water's water mains, stormwater drains and/or easements, and if further requirements need to be met. Plans will be appropriately stamped.
Please refer to Sydney Water's website.
Evidence of the building plan approval must be forwarded to the Principal Certifier prior to the commencement of works.
57. Construction Hours
Clearing of land, running of machinery, excavation, and/or earthworks, building works and the delivery of building materials shall be carried out between the following hours:
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- a) between 7am and 6pm, Mondays to Fridays inclusive;
- b) between 8am and 4pm, Saturdays;
- c) no work on Sundays and public holidays;
- d) works may be undertaken outside these hours where:
5. (i) the delivery of vehicles, plant or materials is required outside these hours by the Police or other authorities;
6. (ii) it is required in an emergency to avoid the loss of life, damage to property and/or to prevent environmental harm; and
7. (iii) a variation is approved in advance in writing by Council.
58. Site Management During Construction
- a) All materials and equipment must be stored wholly within the work site unless an approval to store them elsewhere is held.
- b) Waste materials (including excavation, demolition and construction waste materials) must be managed on the site and then disposed of at a waste management facility.
- c) Copies of receipts stating the following must be given to the Principal Certifier :
4. (i) the place to which waste materials were transported;
5. (ii) the name of the contractor transporting the materials; and
6. (iii) the quantity of materials transported off-site and recycled or disposed of.
- d) Any run-off and erosion control measures required must be maintained within their operating capacity until the completion of the works to prevent debris escaping from the site into drainage systems, waterways, adjoining properties and roads.
- e) During construction:
9. (i) all vehicles entering or leaving the site must have their loads covered;
10. (ii) all vehicles, before leaving the site, must be cleaned of dirt, sand and other materials, to avoid tracking these materials onto public roads; and
11. (iii) any public place affected by works must be kept lit between sunset and sunrise if it is likely to be hazardous to the public.
- f) At the completion of the works, the work site must be left clear of waste and debris.
Note: In the event it is not possible to keep the footpath or road reserve clear during construction works written approval from Council shall be obtained prior to any closing of the road reserve or footpath area. The closure shall take place in accordance with Council's written approval. The area shall be signposted and such signposting be maintained in a way that ensures public safety at all times.
59. Loading and Unloading During Construction
The following requirements apply.
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- a) All loading and unloading associated with construction activity must be accommodated on site.
- b) If, during excavation, it is not feasible for loading and unloading to take place on site, a Works Zone on the street may be considered by Council.
- c) A Works Zone may be required if loading and unloading is not possible on site. If a Works Zone is warranted an application must be made to Council at least 8 weeks prior to commencement of work on the site. An approval for a Works Zone may be given for a specific period and certain hours of the days to meet the particular need for the site for such facilities at various stages of construction. The approval will be reviewed periodically for any adjustment necessitated by the progress of the construction activities.
- d) Where hoisting activity over the public place is proposed to be undertaken including hoisting from a Works Zone, a separate approval must be obtained from Council.
60. Erosion and Sediment Control Plan - Implementation
Erosion and sediment control devices are to be installed and maintained until the site is fully stabilised in accordance with the approved Erosion and Sediment Control Plan.
61. Overland Stormwater Flow Management
The works associated with the development shall ensure that:
- a) all natural water flow from adjoining properties is not impeded or diverted; and
- b) surface and subsurface water flows are not redirected or concentrated onto adjoining properties.
62. Earthworks - General Requirements
All earthworks on site must comply with the following:
- a) topsoil shall be stripped only from approved areas and shall be stockpiled for re-use during site rehabilitation and landscaping;
- b) once the topsoil has been removed the natural batter should be suitably stepped, scarified or roughened to prevent slipping and the fill is to be keyed in to hold the toe of the fill batter in place;
- c) filling shall comprise either uncontaminated Virgin Excavated Natural Material (VENM) or Excavated Natural Material (ENM). Contamination certificates for all source material shall be provided to the Principal Certifier prior to placing any fill on site;
- d) a ticketing system is to accompany any material being brought to the site. A register is to be kept on site to cross reference against the source records. An independent site auditor is to be engaged to undertake appropriate certification regarding the monitoring and validation of the fill material imported to the site as being sound, suitable for the proposed use and free of contamination;
- e) where batters exceed a ratio of three horizontal to one vertical, retaining walls, stoneflagging or terracing shall be constructed;
- f) all fill within the site shall be placed in layers not exceeding 300mm thickness and compacted to achieve a minimum dry density ratio of 98% when tested in accordance with Australian Standard AS 1289 - 'Methods of testing soils for engineering purposes unless otherwise specified'; and
- g) all disturbed areas are to be stabilised/revegetated, using a minimum 300mm surface layer of topsoil, as soon as practicable after the completion of filling works.
Note: ENM is defined by the Excavated Natural Material Exemption - NSW Environment Protection Authority.
63. Earthworks - Removal, Management and Transportation of Fill
All excavated fill material that is to be removed from the site shall only be sent to:
- a) a NSW Office of Environment and Heritage licensed waste disposal facility. A copy of the receipts from the waste disposal facility shall be kept and shall be provided to the Principal Certifier prior to the issue of an Occupation Certificate, whichever occurs first, or authorised officer of Council upon request; or
- b) a site which has a current development consent for the importation of fill material. A copy of the current development consent for the site to which the material is proposed to be distributed must be provided to the Principal Certifier prior to the issue of an Occupation Certificate, whichever occurs first, or authorised officer upon request.
All removed excavated material shall be transported and disposed of in accordance with the NSW Office of Environment and Heritage guidelines applicable at the time of removal.
64. Construction Management Plan - Implementation
All aspects of the Construction Management Plan must be implemented and maintained until the completion of works.
65. Dust Management Measures
All reasonable measures to minimise dust generated during construction are to be implemented. This includes but is not limited to:
- a) clearly defined stop work thresholds whereby work on site will be ceased with the exception of water trucks; thresholds must be provided that relate to velocity and direction of wind and relative humidity;
- b) dust screen installation and maintenance around the perimeter of the site for the duration of works;
- c) the use of water trucks to regularly wet down areas;
- d) stabilisation of stockpiles;
- e) definition of the maximum allowable height of stockpiles; and
- f) dust Management Measures are to be incorporated into the Construction Management Plan.
66. Food Premises - Fit-out Requirements
The fit-out of the Centre-Based Child Care Facility shall comply with the Food Act 2003, Food Safety Standards, Council's Food Premises Fit Out Code and Australian Standard AS 4674 'Construction and fit out of food premises'.
67. Implementation of Erosion and Sediment Control Plan (ESCP)
The measures required in the approved Erosion and Sediment Control Plan (ESCP) must be implemented during construction.
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68. Works as Executed Drawings Required
Works-As-Executed drawings are to be submitted to Council detailing the following information:
- a) invert levels of tanks, pits and pipes;
- b) surface levels of pits and surrounding ground levels;
- c) levels of surrounding kerb;
- d) floor levels of buildings & car parking areas;
- e) top of kerb levels at the front of the lot;
- f) Onsite detention tank compliance with approved plans
69. On-site Stormwater Detention - Compliance Certification
Upon completion of the on-site stormwater detention system, certification from a consulting engineer and a works as executed drawing are to be provided to Council stating that the works are in accordance with or satisfy the design intent of the approved system.
Details demonstrating compliance are to be submitted to the Principal Certifier prior to the issue of any Occupation Certificate.
70. On-site Stormwater Detention and pump out - Plan of Management
A Plan of Management for the on-site stormwater detention and pump out facilities must be prepared setting out all design and operational parameters for the detention and pump out facilities including design levels, hydrology and hydraulics, inspection, maintenance requirements and time intervals for such inspection and maintenance.
The Plan of Management is to be submitted to and approved by Council prior to the issue of the final Occupation Certificate.
71. On-site Stormwater Detention - Positive Covenant Required
A positive covenant must be created on the title of the land providing the following:
- a) the registered proprietors will at all times maintain, repair and keep the on-site stormwater detention and pump out facilities in a good and safe condition and state of repair, in accordance with the approved design to the reasonable satisfaction, at all times, of Council, having due regard to the Plan of Management for the operation and maintenance of the on-site stormwater detention and pump out facilities;
- b) the liability under the Covenant will jointly and severally bind the registered proprietors of the proposed dwellings; and
- c) Council only will be entitled to release or modify the Covenant.
The terms of the positive covenant are to be prepared to Council's standard requirements at the applicant's expense and endorsed by Council prior to lodgement with NSW Land Registry Services.
Details demonstrating compliance are to be submitted to the Principal Certifier prior to the issue of the Occupation Certificate.
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72. Plan of management
The approved plan of management for the centre-based child care facility listed in Condition 1 must be updated to include the following:
- (g) The Emergency Evacuation plan is required to be updated to refer to the floor plans endorsed as part of this consent.
- (h) a contact phone number of the centre's director should be made available to the parents and neighbors,
- (i) parents and guardians should be informed of the importance of noise minimisation when entering the site and dropping off or picking up children, and
- (j) staff parking spaces must be limited to being used by staff and clearly marked,
- (k) indoor play areas: the windows must follow the configuration shown in Figure 2-2, of the acoustic report referred to in condition 2 of this consent. Windows can be opened when children are not involved in indoor play to allow for natural ventilation, and
- (l) outdoor play areas: the children can engage in outdoor play at a time with the following configuration at any time:
- i. 8x 0-2 year age groups and 20x 2-3 year age groups (playing at a different time to the 3-5 year old)
- ii. 15x 3-5 year age groups (playing at different time to the 0-2 and 2-3 year old).
The approved plan of management updated in accordance with this condition is to be submitted to the Principal Certifier prior to the issue of an Occupation Certificate. The development is to be carried out in accordance with the Plan of Management updated pursuant to this condition.
73. Survey Certificate at Completion
A Survey Certificate, prepared by a Registered Surveyor is to certify the location of the buildings in relation to the boundaries of the allotment.
The certificate is to be submitted to the Principal Certifier prior to the issue of any Occupation Certificate.
74. Suitability of Glazing - Windows and Doors
Glazing materials installed in the building shall be in accordance with Australian Standards AS 1288 - 'Glass in Buildings - Selection and Installation' and AS 2047 - 'Windows and external glazed doors in buildings', e.g. windows, doors, footlights, balustrades and shower screens.
A Certificate of Compliance is required to be provided to the Principal Certifier prior to the issue of an Occupation Certificate.
Note: The certificate is required to be signed by the manufacturer and the installer.
75. Suitability of External Use of Timber
Evidence of the type of timber installed, indicating both species and durability as required by Australian Standard AS 1684 - 'Residential Timber-Framed Construction', is required to be provided to the Principal Certifier prior to the issue of an Occupation Certificate.
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Note: This is required for bushfire construction purposes as well as use of timber in decks and balustrades in particular.
76. Suitability of Glazing - Balustrades
Glass balustrades must be designed and installed in accordance with Australian/New Zealand Standard AS/NZS 1170.1 - 'Structural design actions- Permanent, imposed and other actions'.
Engineering certification must be provided to the Principal Certifier for glass balustrading used in the development prior to the issue of an Occupation Certificate.
77. Infrastructure Repair and Completion of Works
Prior to the issue of any Occupation Certificate:
- a) all works in the road reserve must be fully completed
- b) any public infrastructure damaged as a result of the development must be repaired to the satisfaction of Council.
78. Occupation Certificate Required Prior to The Use Of The Building
The building/structure shall not be occupied or used prior to the issuing of an Occupation Certificate by the Principal Certifier. Only that part of the building to which the Certificate applies may be occupied or used.
A copy of the Occupation Certificate shall be submitted to Council within two days of its issue.
79. Vehicle Access Signage
Vehicle entrances and exits shall be clearly signposted, including street number, and visible from both the street and site prior to the issue of an Occupation Certificate.
80. Termite Protection - Certificate of Treatment
The type and method of termite treatment (complying with Australian Standard AS 3660.1 'Termite management - New building work') provided to walls and floors, pipe penetrations, jointing of new work to existing and slab perimeters.
A copy of the termite treatment and materials used must also be securely fixed inside the meter box for future reference.
81. Roads Act 1993 Approval - Completion of Works
The submission of documentary evidence to the Principal Certifier that all work required to be constructed under the Roads Act 1993 approval issued by Council have been satisfied prior to the issue of any Occupation Certificate.
82. Food Premises - Registration
Occupation of the premises shall not occur until:
- a) a registration form has been submitted to Council for the Centre-Based Child Care Facility; and
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- b) notification to the NSW Food Authority under Food Safety Standard 3.2.2 Division 2 Section 4 Notification. This requirement is to be met by notifying through the Department of Primary Industries Food Authority website.
Evidence of compliance with the above shall be submitted to the Principal Certifier prior to the issue of an Occupation Certificate and the commencement of trading.
83. Inspection of Food Premises
An inspection of the food preparation areas is to be organised with and conducted by Council's Environmental Health Officer prior to the release of an Interim or Final Occupation Certificate.
84. Telecommunications Provider Certificate
Documentary evidence from a telecommunications carrier confirming that services are available for the development shall be provided to the Principal Certifier prior to issue of the Occupation Certificate.
85. Sydney Water Section 73 Compliance Certificate
A Section 73 Compliance Certificate under the Sydney Water Act 1994 must be provided to the Principal Certifier prior to issue of the Occupation Certificate. For details refer to Sydney Water's website.
86. Energy Provider Certificate
Documentary evidence from an Energy Provider confirming that satisfactory arrangements have been made to serve the proposed development shall be provided to the Principal Certifier prior to the issue of the Occupation Certificate.
87. Completion of Landscaping
Suitable documentation must be provided to the Principal Certifier prior to the issue of an Occupation Certificate demonstrating that landscaping has been completed in accordance of the approved landscape plan.
88. Acoustic Certification
Prior to the issue of the Occupation Certificate, an acoustic consultant shall certify that the works have been completed in accordance with the recommendations contained in the approved acoustic report and that the development is capable of operating in accordance with the design criteria.
Operational Conditions
89. Child Care Centre
Approval is given for use as a Child Care Centre with a maximum capacity of 58 children.
The development must be maintained to provide a minimum of189sqm of indoor unencumbered space and 406sqm of outdoor unencumbered space.
Any loss in internal or external areas will be required to be assessed and considered as part of a modification application.
A separate approval/license is required to be obtained from the NSW Department of Community Services before the commencement of the use of the Child Care Centre.
90. Hours of Operation - Child Care centre
The child care centre shall operate or trade only between the following hours:
7am to 6pm, Monday-Friday.
Operations such as staff accessing the site, cleaning, preparing for operation, and office administration may be undertaken outside of the above hours provided no disturbance to the amenity of the neighbourhood occurs.
91. On-Site Car Parking
The development is to provide for the following parking spaces in accordance with the approved plans reference in Condition 1:
- (i) 19 car parking spaces, including:
- a. 12 spaces specifically allocated for the use of parents (including 1 accessible space);
- b. 7 spaces specifically allocated for the use of staff.
- (ii) 1 turning bay.
92. Compliance with Recommended Conditions of the Acoustic Report
The management controls contained in the acoustic assessment report referred to in condition 1 must be followed.
93. Plan of Management
The development must operate in accordance with the conditions specified in the approved plan of management updated in accordance with Condition 72.
94. Maintenance of Food Preparation Areas
The food preparation areas within the premises, including feed bottle preparation facilities, shall be maintained in accordance with the requirements of:
- (a) Food Act 2003 , associated Regulation and food safety standards adopted thereunder; and
- (b) Australian Standard AS4674:2004 'Design, construction and fit-out of food premises'.
95. Waste Management Protection of the Environment Operations Act 1997
All waste generated on the site is to be stored, handled and disposed of in such a manner as to not create air pollution (including odour), offensive noise or pollution of land and/or water as defined by the Protection of the Environment Operations Act 1997. The development shall maintain facilities sufficient for containment of all wastes arising from the use of the site.
Waste collection must be by a private contractor and occur between the hours of operation of the business.
Waste removal service contracts/agreements shall be maintained for the business at all times.
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96. Maintenance of Landscaping
All trees, including street trees, and plants forming part of the approved landscape design must be maintained on an ongoing basis. Maintenance includes watering, weeding, fertilizing, pest and disease control and any other activity required to maintain healthy trees, plants and turfed areas.
97. Signage
No advertising signs or structures shall be erected, displayed or affixed on the approved premises, site, footpaths, pedestrian paths, roadways or on any other land without prior approval.
98. Loading Within Site
All loading and unloading operations must be carried out wholly within the confines of the site at all times and must not obstruct other properties or adjacent roadways.
99. Noise Generating Activities - Daytime and evening hours
During the hours of 7am to 10pm, the development shall be managed so that the LAeq noise levels, measured at any point in accordance with the NSW Industrial Noise Policy, do not exceed 5dB(A) (LAeq) above background levels (LA90) with respect to noise amenity of residential properties and associated outdoor areas.
100. Noise Generating Activities - Night hours
Between the hours of 10pm to 7am, the development shall be managed so that the noise level does not create offensive noise when assessed against the NSW EPA Noise Guide for Local Government (2013).
101. Annual Fire Safety Statement
The owner of the building is responsible for the lodgement with Council of an Annual Fire Safety Statement prepared by a suitably qualified person so as to confirm the essential fire safety measures required to be provided in the building exist and are being maintained. The Annual Fire Safety Statement shall be issued within 12 months of the issue of the Final Fire Safety Certificate, and then on an annual basis thereafter.
A copy of the Fire Safety Statement obtained and Fire Safety Schedule shall also be:
- a) forwarded to the Commissioner of Fire and Rescue New South Wales by email to afss@fire.nsw.gov.au; and
- b) prominently displayed in the building.
Advisory Notes
(i) Approval within the Road Reserve
Registered Certifiers do not have any authority to issue Engineering Approvals or carry out inspections for works on Public Roads under the Roads Act 1993.
(ii) Equitable Access
The applicant shall make themselves aware of the Discrimination Against People with Disabilities Act (DDA) and assess their responsibilities and liabilities with regards to the provision of access for all people.
This Page 30 of the minutes of HAWKESBURY LOCAL PLANNING PANEL held via audio-visual link, Thursday, 17 March 2022.
(iii) Acid Sulfate Soils - Monitoring of Excavation During Works
All excavations are to be monitored to ensure that acid Sulfate soils are not encountered during works. Signs that may indicate the presence of acid sulphur soils include:
- a) change in colour of the soil into grey and green tones;
- b) effervescence;
- c) the release of sulphur smelling gases such as sulphur dioxide or hydrogen sulphide; and
- d) lowering of the soil Ph by at least one unit.
Should any of the above indicators be present excavation work on the site is to stop and Council is to be notified to determine what action is required to be taken before work may commence.
(iv) Site Contamination Discovered During Demolition or Construction
Should any new information come to light during demolition or construction works which has the potential to alter previous conclusions about contamination, then the applicant must be immediately notified and works must cease. Works must not recommence on site until the consultation is made with Council.
(v) Dial Before You Dig
Prior to commencement of work, the free national community service 'Dial Before You Dig' shall be contacted on 1100 regarding the location of underground services in order to prevent injury, personal liability and even death. Enquiries should provide the property details and the nearest cross street/road.
(vi) Requirements of 88B Instrument
The applicant shall make themselves aware of any User Restriction, Easements and Covenants to this property and shall comply with the requirements of any Section 88B Instrument relevant to the property in order to prevent the possibility of legal proceedings against them.
(vii) Works on Public Land - Public Liability Insurance
Any person or contractor undertaking works on public land must take out a Public Risk Insurance policy with a minimum cover of $10 million in relation to the occupation of public land and the undertaking of approved works within Council's road reserve or public land, as approved by this consent.
The policy is to note, and provide protection/full indemnification for Council, as an interested party. A copy of the policy must be submitted to Council prior to commencement of any works. The policy must be valid for the entire period that the works are being undertaken.
(viii) Utilities and Services
Utilities, services and other infrastructure potentially affected by construction and operation shall be identified prior to construction to determine requirements for access to, diversion, protection, and/or support. Consultation with the relevant owner and/or provider of services that are likely to be affected by the proposed development shall be undertaken to make suitable arrangements for access to, diversion, protection, and/or support of the affected infrastructure as required. The cost of any such arrangements shall be borne by the developer.
Item documents
Agenda item chapter 4
CP - DA0196/20 - Lot 3 DP 270515, 88B Bulgamatta Road, Berambing -
Do you want to— sorry, I'll just go back one step. You weren't here when I gave the preamble at the beginning, and I'm not going to go through it again. You can, I think it's available on the council website, but you understand that if you speak, you're agreeing to that, what you say being recorded.
Correct, yeah.
Okay. And we observe normal rules here of politeness and no , you know, insulting and throwing things at people. I'm joking, but you understand what I mean about the decorum in the meeting. Okay. So, Mr. Buckett, was there anything further you wanted to say? Because we have questions. We have at least one question from a panel member for you.
I don't know that we have, Lionel.
Yes, he is here. Mr. Buckett, can you hear me?
He's on mute.
We can't hear you, Mr. Buckett.
Okay, is that better? Yes
So, do you want to say anything further? Because we have some questions for you. At least one question's been flagged from Mr. Rogers. Do you—
Only that, just to say again, I would like the time to do a proper submission, and I haven't had the time. I don't think it's fair or reasonable, the time that I've had.
Okay, now, Mr— Mr. Rogers.
Yes
Thank you, Madam Chair. Question, you can ask Mr. Bucket a question, yes. Yes
Thank you, Madam Chair. Mr. Bucket, good to see you again. I was particularly taken when you mentioned that you only had one day's notice. I took a note of that. Can you elaborate on that a little bit, the one day's notice? What did that involve? Because it also relates to perhaps further questions I may ask of Mr . Jones a little later, but what did you mean by you only had one day's notice? Could you elaborate on that, please? I didn't
Get a copy of the submission until I think it was the 9th
Like for council submission.
So then my understanding
Is that
The business
Paper? Is that what
You're
Referring
To, Mr. Buckett ? The business paper. Business paper. I didn't get that till then. And then from my understanding, the panel gets documents to look at six days before. So that's what I'm referring to. So I think you should have time to consider— at the same time to consider my submission as the council's submission
So I only had one day's notice. Yes, thank you for that, Mr. Buckett.
Madam Chair, I will also make some comments in relation to time relating to receipt of submissions at the appropriate time, not in response to what Mr. Buckett said, but in relation to the receipt of my documentation, because the issue of time.. . is an issue for consideration, so I do thank Mr Bucket for that, and no further questions.
Does anyone else have any further questions of Mr Bucket?
Ian Stapleton, I have a question.
Go right ahead, Mr Stapleton.
Mr Bucket, the council's paper says the development was originally issued, and the development consent number was MA1308/01 for a tourist facility.
Is that correct? Yes.
Council now say that, or the council officer's report says the tourist facility is a prohibited development
Can you explain why council would give you consent for a prohibited development
I understand existing use rights was what they asked for
Could you elaborate on that, what existing use was there there before your development was approved
I don't know anything about, like, the legalities of before the approval. Well
What was the land used for?
The land? Yes. The land was 628 acres of what was used for forestry.
So
It
Was just bushland, was it? No
It wasn't just bushland. What was there? It had a history of being logged .
A long history of being logged.
Right. And any buildings on it?
Yes
It had the 600 acres was one bit of land, and there were DAs on there for a house. So I'm not sure at that point how far the house had been progressed.
Right.
There might have been some animals maybe, some grazing or something .
Yes, from time to time.
All right, that's all on that, thanks . Now, the council officer's report also says that the cabin you have built
Have altered locations and designs in comparison with the approved plans. Is that correct
That's arguable . Okay, I'll accept that. I would say that the cabin DA didn't have a survey layer. It's a mud map for location. Right. Okay. Didn't have condition.
Have they got altered designs?
That's arguable as well.
Okay. Is to bring those cabins into planning approval, is that why you've submitted this present DA
Well, the present DA I did as a response to... A complaint and council asking me to—it's really the council's submission to overcome their issues. Pete , my
Question: was the DA to bring what was approved and what you actually built into line?
Yes. Yes.
Thank you very much.
Okay. Mr Brunton, you had something you wanted to say?
Yeah, I've just got a couple of questions, just to clarify some of the history. The first one relates to, with the application, there was some certificates issued by the engineering company, Neebone. They were prepared in 2018 and 2019, and they say that they want you to install some evacuation safety lighting. Now, that's going to take a fair amount of work, I would have thought. Are you able to do that sort of work, or get that done
That's long been done.
That's been done already?
Yeah.
So you mean last year, or when was it done? After that report, or before the report
Years ago. I'd have to look up when, but that's been done for years. Okay. So their report was wrong, was
It, in saying that you needed to do it
No. Their report— well, Neebone and Beretta and Hall are engineers. Yeah. So, I'm not sure that the report would refer to that. Maybe some other report did.
But in any event, the place has all its fire emergency approvals in place. Okay, that's fine.
It would be the BCA report. Yeah, yeah, but the BCA report was, the BCA report on each of the houses, which was done a couple of years ago, was the one that mentioned B-Bones report. But if the lighting's there, that's fine. You don't have to, it doesn't have to go in. It's already there. A couple of questions about the history. Now , the consent for the development was issued in 2003, and your solicitor says that the development started in 2006. So what part of the development happened in 2006?
That's the house I mentioned before.
So there's a DA for a house is also on the land, subdivided, but we used the house from 2006.
Right. So, and it was just a house, was it? Like that was your residence while the work was about to go on, was it?
No, it was a house. The place has a management statement. This is the aim of the place is ecotourism. It's signed off by council. So the house... was built, was approved on the 624 acres before a subdivision was complete. There was a lot of time to do a lot of work. We had to build the council about a million dollars worth of road for free as part of a cabin development, DA. So that took— and you'd imagine the road that I had to build the council as part of the DA serves five other properties. And the road ended up with having a section of it had a spring in it, which blew the pricing out to buggery, excuse the French. So doing the works for the council ended up sucking up a lot of the budget, which took, and also a lot of time.
The only council contribution to the road was providing the engineering inspections. Now essentially, I'm a builder , experienced builder, and I built this road. I enjoyed building the road. I didn't enjoy building it for free for council entirely, as you would imagine . But it
Had unexpected extra costs in it. So about the same time as building the road for them, we also built a house to get some income in.
At the same time, around the same time, the DA for the cabins was done. So all of these things were on the 624 acres. And after the subdivision was completed, they ended up in, you know, designated spots depending on where the boundaries were. Okay. So there's a, you know, a mistake in — that's why I should have time to properly do a submission, because you can see there's mistakes in the council submission.
Well, can I— I'll just clarify. You just tell me this is right or wrong. So there was a consent issued for a house to be built on the large lot of 600 acres. Yeah. You built that , and then you let it out to get some income, but it wasn't a house that was approved as part of the tourist resort. It was approved as just a house. Yes. Okay. So there's two separate consents there. Yes. Okay. So then the following year, you put in
The application for your construction certificate,
And you got approval from— I may even have been David — to build the cabins. That'd be Urban City. We should the CC. Yeah , okay. Urban City, that's right.
So
By 2012, when the development then became prohibited, how many cabins had you actually finished? Two So you had two. Okay.
And then you kept building more.
Well, hang on a sec. I'm allowing all sorts of questioning of Mr. Buckett, but when it might have some legal ramification, I'm not going to allow him to be questioned, to be ambushed, because you've just said became prohibited, and then you asked him, then you built more. So , the inference being that if he built any after it became prohibited, that may have been unlawfully built. I'm just concerned here about ambushing Mr. Buckett, who is a layperson.
He doesn't have his lawyers present. He's requested that his lawyer be present. There is a significant legal issue in this matter, and I would just ask you to be fair in questioning Mr. Buckett.
Yeah, and I was using shorthand. That's okay. So my final question is, by 2012, had you received an occupation certificate?
On the house, I think I did. Right.
Okay
That's all right.
Are there any other questions from other people before I move on to Mr. Jones?
None from me, Madam Chair.
Okay. Mr. Rogers, you've— No, you've already questioned.
Yes, I have a question in anticipation of Mr. Jones, but not until he's finished his presentation.
All right, Mr. Buckett, so stay on the line, Mr. Buckett, because we haven't— we're moving now on to Mr. Rogers— oh, sorry, Mr. Jones. So, Mr. Jones, can you just state what your involvement is, well, whatever it is you want to say. Now it's your chance. Try to limit it to three minutes, please.
Will do. Thank you for that. I'm the applicant on Miles' behalf for this application, for the development application for the, what we call the treehouse.
Sorry, will you state your qualification, you know, state what your qualification is? Building
Consultant and building planning consultant. Okay. So, and I'm the applicant on Miles' behalf.
Yes.
And we've worked very closely. I wasn't involved in the original development , but I've had to pick up and really organise the — All the documentation for this application, which runs to the 25 or 27 supplementary documents. I guess my first submission would be that there's a sort of complex legal discussion going on about the legal commencement of the tourist facility, which I didn't think was anything but pretty clear cut. Lionel has a development approval for a tourist facility. He has a CC for commencement. He has a commencement notice, which was sent to Council, and he's got inspections of footings. So, in my view, the commencement is pretty clear cut. But Council have a legal opinion, which we haven't been able to see, which disputes that.
So I think it's , I guess that was why I was asking for a deferral, really, because we really need our lawyers to look at Council's legal opinion if we can get it,
And
Just see why the $15,000 barrister's opinion that we've got disagrees with Council's legal opinion as to whether there's a legal commencement . The whole application rests on Lionel having a legal commencement of his tourist facility approval, which then runs through the, I guess what happened was that the tourist facility in 2012 LEP was removed from this zoning, but because Lionel's approval predates that, then his tourist facility approval, as he runs through the 2012 right up to the present date. So, I guess that they're my two points. One is we really need our legal people to look at this, and secondly, I don't see that there's any real question. I don't see why this is an issue, that when the documentation is very clear that he's got a legal commencement , and that's running through to this point.
So that shouldn't be what seems to be the underpinning of Council's recommendation for refusal.
And okay, so have you read the report of Mr Johnston that's in these papers?
Yes. Yep.
And you'll note that, I just have a question for you, page 65 of the meeting notes, the Council officer advises you that it's now not,
It's now a permissible, an eco-tourist facility is now a permissible use. Can you see the top of the page, 65?
65, yep.
And so whereas it was prohibited at the time of lodging the DA, as at now, an eco-tourist facility is a permissible use under the Hawkesbury LEP 2012.
Yep. That's something, I don't want to sort of get into an argument with Andrew Johnston, but I think he's a very good planner, but that's not our understanding. We were sort of advised that the application should continue. I'm pretty sure that we raised this ourselves. Should we withdraw and submit an eco-tourist ... Well, he's
Saying there that you were advised
That you
Should withdraw
It. That's not my understanding.
Read that, just read that sentence. Counsel has advised—I'll read it out for the record—counsel has advised the applicant and owner to withdraw the subject application and instead prepare an application for an eco-tourist facility, which is now a permissible use under the Hawkesbury LEP 2012. Request to withdraw the application has been declined by the owner. So that second sentence obviously is correct.
Well, that's, I think it comes down to timing. At the time of the — this is a two-year-old application, so in the early stages of the application, we made that suggestion ourselves. Andrew asked us to continue with this application, and if that request has been made, that's been made to Lionel. It has never been made to me. It must have been made to Lionel as a recent event, I would think.
So your main submission, though, is you'd like the further time to consider the issues and for your, Mr Buckett's lawyers, to consider the legal issues. Is that correct?
I think that's pretty important, yes.
Putting that to one side, is there anything you want to say about the merits of the proposal, or do you rely on the documents you've lodged, or—
We rely on the documents. This is pretty messy, I guess everyone's got that sense. But, for instance, the BCA requirements, if you look at document 23 of our submission, it lists the four areas which weren't compliant, and those have now been attended to. So there's been very extensive reports prepared, and then any issues have been dealt with. So I think that, in terms of the technical aspects, the BCA compliance, the bushfire safety, the structural, all those aspects have been dealt with. So then it's really then down to the question of the existing use and the permissibility .
Okay. So does anyone have any of the panel members have any questions of Mr. Jones ?
Yes, if I may, Madam Chair.
Paul Rogers, community rep. David , nice to meet you again.
Yes.
My couple of concerns. Lionel Buckett indicated that he had notice of the Hawkesbury matter before the agenda on the 8th of March. Did you get the same sort of notice electronically about the 8th?
The sequence of events, I got an email saying that the matter was going to the planning panel, and at that stage we weren't apprised of the agenda or the report. So I sent a couple, and we were told that we would get that. I think yesterday, so I think we need a bit more time. So I sent an email to Nicole Miller at council, who was good enough to sort of, I guess, send me an early version of this agenda until we finished up getting it late last week. Well,
Thank you for clarifying, because it relates to my earlier question to Mr. Buckett. I received the electronic papers on Tuesday the 8th. Tuesday the 8th,
The
Hawkesbury River was in flood, all three bridges were out. We were somewhat landlocked. There was even problems with getting over by the road because there was blockages with landslips, etc. And I've just put this on the record that for those of us who live on this side of the river, we are severely impacted from time to time with both bushfire and flooding. And even though the Parrambing is much higher than the river, the reality is we do become landlocked. And I just put it for the record that I empathise with the issue of delay because I myself did not receive my paper copies of the express post until yesterday, the day before today's meeting. So I did have the electronic version as of Tuesday the 8th, but my paper version didn't arrive until yesterday.
So I am empathetic to the issue of notice. But the questions I do have of Mr. Jones: you did write to council on the 14th of March with a series of dot points setting out your concerns and reasons for a deferral. Do you recall that email
Correct, yes. Yep.
And do you have
Access to that at the moment?
There's a couple of
Questions in front of me now, yes. Yep.
Madam Chair, I'd just like to take Mr. Jones to paragraph 4 of that letter, which I think we all would have access to. It forms part of an email stream that has been circulated between members of the panel previously. And whereas Mr. Jones says at point 4. The planning report contains anomalies and assertions not supported by documentation. These could be misleading to the planning panel and require a detailed response. So my concern as a member of this planning panel, in giving consideration to this matter, that what you're saying, Mr Jones, is that the planning report, which I'm relying on, which we are all relying on, you say contains anomalies and assertions not supported by documentation.
There is extensive documentation connected with this proposal. These could be misleading to the planning panel and require a detailed response. That concerns me. What would you like to say further on that? Because I am concerned that we are not being misled, or in any way not being given all the information that we can make a proper decision on.
Two points that that alludes to. The planning report
Basically says that somebody told the planner that the commencement was 2006. There's nothing in our statement of environmental effects that says that, so that assertion is a verbal that's come from somewhere else. The timeline that I've got in my statement of environmental effects refers to the 2007
CC
And commencement, and from my point of view that's the date of commencement. So to say that work was commenced in 2006, which makes it unlawful because it predates the approval, is, well , certainly confusing, but I would have thought also a little bit misleading. And the second point actually goes to that advice that's saying that, you know, we're requested to withdraw the application. I've never had that request myself. We actually suggested that we, you know, should we switch over to an eco-tourist application, and the advice at that time from Council's planners was not to do that, to continue with this application. Again, so to, and there's no documentation, there's no email to support that. So I think that to sort of include that into the report is, again, confusing and possibly misleading.
And you are formally the applicant on behalf of Mr Buckett?
Correct, yeah.
Yes, all right. Very well. Thank you for that, and thank you, Madam Chair. No further questions.
Can I interrupt for one minute? Jody, is it relevant that the email that was referred to then from Mr David Jones to the Council should be included in the papers? I'd like to move that that be included in the papers of the meeting .
I'd second that.
Yes, we could use that as tabled correspondence in the meeting minutes.
Thank you. So just to make it clear, it's an email from Mr David Jones of Monday the 15th of March 2022 to Hawkesbury City Council, CC Andrew Johnston at Hawkesbury Council, and it's direct to the General Manager.
And it's signed off by David Jones, Building and Landscape Design, with a telephone number there. That should correctly identify it. It's an email that lists six points to support a request for deferral of this application, as has been put by Mr Buckett and Mr Jones on his behalf. Now, does someone else want to ask
A question? Sorry? That was sent on Monday.
Monday? It was sent yesterday. Oh, it says Monday the 14th of March.
Yep.
Oh, today's the 17th, sorry everyone. Yeah
That was sent
On Monday. What did I say?
The 15th, I think you said.
I'm very sorry about that.
That's fine. Make sure the record
Corrects.
What
The document was, please, Jody.
Already mucked
Up the dates once today. Madam Chair, I have a question of Mr Jones.
Yes.
Mr Jones, what makes you think you have a right to make a submission on a council report, other than at
The planning panel meeting today?
As
I've
Been around for a while, and I'm not aware that, as a right, applicants have a chance to comment on a council officer's report in writing in detail.
Before the meeting, they might send something in. But what makes you think we should go for a deferral because you have a right to make a submission?
Well,
It wasn't
Going to be
A written submission; it was going to be included in our verbal submission. I guess my point was that this is a pretty lengthy report, and there's a couple of, as I said, some anomalies and confusing sort of assertions in this report.
No, no, excuse me. I'm asking you, what makes you think you've got a right?
Well, I do have the right to address the panel. Pardon? I have the right to address the panel as the applicant.
Yes, so it's through—you're saying your right is through the ability to address the panel.
Yes.
Thank you
Have you got any qualifications ?
No formal qualifications other than 40 years of experience in—
Yes, experience is okay. What you've got experience as a building designer. Correct
Yeah, and consultant.
I asked the—not the applicant, the owner, Mr. Buckett,
Earlier
Whether this present DA was submitted to bring the what was approved and what was actually built into line. Would you agree with that characterisation of what
Exactly, yes. That's the—that was exactly the point of the application.
All right. So, what's your understanding? Should this application be judged on the planning controls that were in effect at the time of the approval then? Of the approval of 1308/01 in 2003, Mr Buckett said.
Well, I think it's got a continuing use as a tourist facility. Now,
I'm not talking about —my question is, as
An experienced building designer, is it your understanding that this application, the current one, be judged on the controls that were in force in 2003?
That's an interesting question . I mean, I think the current buildings should be brought to the present standards required by BCA, the engineers, the Bushfire controls . For instance, there's been a change to the Biodiversity Act, so that—
That's not my question. Do you want me to repeat it, or do you want to
Well, I think in answer, the use should be—we should rely on the existing use, which goes back to the pre-12,000 LEP. But for practical purposes, the building should comply with the current requirements.
All right. Very much.
Was there anyone else who wanted to ask a question? I think I saw Mr Stapleton jumped in. Yes, thank you, Mr Brunton. You
Have had a
Go, but have anything further you want to ask?
I wanted to explain for Mr Jones the reasons for my questions about the sequence of events, because that 2006 date, which is in the council officer's report, comes from the solicitor's report presented with the application. So it says that the development started in 2006. Mr Buckett explained to us that this development didn't start in 2006. It was the house that was approved by another DA that was built in 2006. So Mr Buckett clarified that point. But the point didn't come from the council officers; it actually came from the legal opinion submitted with the application, and it's been clarified now .
Okay. Well, was there any question of Mr Jones?
No more of me, thanks.
Okay.
In respect of this matter, I don't know if Mr Johnston wants to say anything at all. Mr Johnston, do you want to say anything? You don't have to.
I mean, I'm happy to respond to any inquiries. I think ultimately some of the questions raised about the timing for things, that can be discussed during the closed session. Yes. As Mr Brunton mentioned, that 2006 date was referred... that came from the applicant's legal opinion, so paragraph 33.
Okay. And you appreciate the primary position of the applicant in this matter is for a deferral.
Personally, I don't have an issue with that. Again, that might be a matter for the closed session in case there's any other views from council staff. I don't have an issue. Like, you know, council would like to progress this matter. My concern would be that, you know, we do have a legal opinion. Council has obtained that, and I'm just wondering if there would be benefit for the deferral if we're still going to be in this position again. So there has been changes in the legislation so that now council can consider an ecotourist facility.
Yes.
And that whilst there are clauses in the LEP that would have to be addressed in relation to the requirements for ecotourist facilities, that's an option that's available to them. So, look, overall, as a part of that assessment, there are not major issues with the works that have been undertaken, in particular in relation to bushfire and building matters as well. There have been building certificates applied for, and so there may be some minor upgrading required. But, you know, I think that there's a way forward. You know, we understand the applicant, you know, hasn't had a lot of time, and, you know, Mr Rogers has maybe raised some questions about that. That's fine. I'll leave that to the panel. But, look, I think that there is a way forward.
Would you agree that there's a level of complexity in the matter, given you had changes in the LEP and there's a legal issue?
It's a complex, like there's, with the panel I can maybe provide a bit of advice in regards to the history, because a couple of things that I'm not quite sure that that's all correct. But yeah, look, there's some further discussions that we can have and, yeah, anything that the panel needs, I can try to provide that clarification. Mr
Madam Chair, I have a question of Mr Johnson.
Yes. I may cut you off, so, because there is a significant legal issue in this matter and we have a
Feel free to cut me off if you think that's needed. Both Mr Jones and Mr Barkett characterised this need to this day was to bring the existing, what had been built, into line with what had been approved. Do you agree that that's what it's all about?
Well, I'm not going to give— are you talking to Mr Johnson? Sorry, yes.
Yes
I am.
Pardon me.
Yeah, so this application has been submitted to formalise two cabins that have been built. My— I would read it that it's about formalising the use of those cabins. I don't really take— so there was an approval for six cabins. So the tourist facility, original tourist facility approval was for six cabins, as sort of detailed in my report. It's the way the documentation has been put together that this is for two additional cabins. That's how I've interpreted it. So there's some other cabins that were in similar locations to what was originally approved. So there's a modification application to formalise those two. And so I don't know the names just right off the top of my head. Maybe proposed cabins two and, sorry, existing cabins two and five. You know, so that modification application has been to modify them. Both
The applicant and the owner says this DA is about bringing what's been built and what was approved into line.
I don't necessarily agree with that, but that's not necessarily an issue either, in my mind. Like, essentially, this application has been submitted to formalise and to approve the use and ongoing operation of these two buildings, the treehouse and the enchanted cave cabins.
Well, nothing, nothing I've read relates to the use. Council's paper says location and design.
Well, the proposal details, and I'm assuming it's repeated from the actual development application. This is at page 63, calls it tourist facility , use of two buildings as tourist facilities. Am I right, Mr. Johnson, that where that's put in a report comes straight off the development application?
Page 63.
So on the application form, it says use of two cabins as part of an existing tourist facility. That's what was included in the application form.
Okay
Sorry, Mr Stapleton, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
Thank you.
This isn't a modification DA, is it? It's a new DA.
That's correct. It's a new development application.
If it was to bring in, was to regularise what's been built and what was approved, could you do either a DA or a DA modification?
So this application has, well, this development has quite a history. So there has been a Section 4.55 application submitted.
So, so, so
In terms of— Sorry, I'll ask it a different way. Is this DA a modification DA? No.
It's a new DA.
Yes. Okay . As it is about two buildings that have been built not in accordance with the previous DA,
What planning rules apply ? Do the planning rules that were in existence in 2003, when the two cabins were approved, do those— Conditions apply, or do the current conditions apply?
I guess that's a pretty difficult question. I think it relates to what issue is applicable. So, I mean, for example, for this application, current bushfire requirements have been applied. So that's what the RFS have insisted upon.
So, the plans submitted
Show what's been built and what is now being proposed for
Those two cabins.
So my view is that these are not existing. Like, these two cabins that we're dealing with as a part of this application, so the treehouse and the enchanted cave, these are not previously approved cabins. That's my view. You said that before. You think this is about two
New cabins, and yet the applicant and the owner agree with me it was about bringing what was built and what was approved into line.
Sure. Council has assessed this application on the basis that there have been two cabins built and, you know, this application was seeking to formalise their future use, to formalise these structures. You just said they were for two new cabins.
Perhaps this is getting a bit too — Too long-winded. If you're going to refer to plans and things, I'd prefer we reference them in the paper so that everyone's on the same page in terms of what's being asked.
One last question, Chair. I'm sorry I'm taking up so much time. But surely it's clear on the drawings submitted whether they're modifications of what's being built or whether they're new cabins. Surely if they were new cabins, there would be— what are the numbers? Were there six originally?
Six originally, and one of them was a combined cabin. Right. Well, surely on the—
Now, if you're right, surely on the plans there'd be eight cabins.
That's right. So that's what my report's referring to about different ways of interpreting things, and that they're—you know, I'm referring to, I think that potentially there could be nine.
Are there nine shown on the plans? On the plans, these things are shown, yes. So if you look at the site plan, that there are cabins that have numbers, but then these, the Enchanted Cave and Treehouse, they're not numbered. So my interpretation is that they're additional.
Have you made a site visit?
I have, yeah. How many are there?
There are five from memory that are actually there. And then there's some other—you know, there's a shed and another type of shed being constructed at the moment. So, yeah, there's about five cabins. But there's debate about that because, you know, there's a TP structure there and, you know, Lionel's had some discussion with other council officers as to whether or not that should be included or if that's something that's exempt. So it's a complicated application. I've assessed it as two additional ones.
Later in the closed session of the meeting. Thanks very much.
Thank you, Mr Stapleton. Thank you, Mr Johnston. Was there any other further discussion on this matter? I think we need to move on to the last item, but I don't want to stop anyone from speaking who would like to speak or
Ask questions. No? Okay then.
We'll move on to the— we will consider that, just for the purposes of the outsiders, we will consider that, consider what's been discussed in our closed session. I'm talking to you, Mr Jones and Mr Buckett. You can leave the meeting now if you wish because your matter will not be discussed further in this meeting right now. Okay? Is that understood?
Yes. Thanks very
Much, Louise.
Thank you.
Okay.
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Outcome: Carried
Item documents
Agenda item chapter 5
CP - DA0303/21 - Lot D DP 334004, 15 King Road, Wilberforce - (95498,
Now, we've got our last item has come to us because I believe the land is owned by Council , and it is
At, just find that one.
I believe it's extension to a butcher shop at Ebenezer, at Wilberforce, sorry. It's at 15 King Road, Wilberforce, and it's DA 03/03/21. It's a commercial premises shop alterations and additions. The applicant seeks consent for alterations and additions to an existing shop at 15 King Road, Wilberforce. The proposal involves the construction of a 9.4 metre by 4.5 metre addition to an existing butcher shop for the purpose of extending the butcher's work area. Just reading out from page 94 of our meeting papers today . The Council, we don't appear to have any speakers for or against this proposal . The recommendation is that it be approved subject to conditions. There's some photos there in the papers.
I have not visited this site because of difficulties last week getting through to Wilberforce . Is there anything that anyone— There's a pretty adequate description. It's a very thorough assessment of the matter . You might, particularly about Hawkesbury Schedule of Flood-Related Development Controls 2020, as on page 97 . Do we have a council officer who assessed this in the meeting?
Yes, my name is Nicholas Powers. I'm a town planner, and I'm the author of the report.
Okay. Is there anything further you want to add to your report, particularly since you wrote it? You can correct me if I'm wrong. We have had a major flood event in this area.
Yes, there was obviously a major flood event. It did not affect this site—oh, sorry, not this site, this shop. Obviously, the site has multiple levels. So, yeah, this shop was not impacted by that flood. And I've got nothing more to add at the moment.
Okay. Now , I don't have any questions, but do any members—sorry, just before we go on to that, you have here quite a number of conditions that you've imposed as well. Does
Anyone, any members of the panel, have any questions of Mr. Powers?
Okay
Mr. Stapleton, do you want to go first?
Mr. Powers, since the recent two floodings, which I acknowledge you say didn't affect this shop— well, maybe the first one did, I don't know — is there anything immediately being put , being done at council that would affect the design of this shop ? Had it been submitted this week
Sorry, no, there would not be any changes to the assessment, from my understanding. The schedule of flood-related development controls obviously requires the same assessment, the same requirements. I think they've addressed that regardless in their flood evacuation report. So that's my understanding.
But that's
All, Madam Chair. Okay,
Thank you for that. And who else put their hand up? Mr. Brunton
Mr. Brunton
Your turn.
Nicholas, can I take you to page 95 of the business paper, and there's a photo down below at the bottom of the page. The right-hand photo shows the area where the extension is going to go. Yes. Now, my inspection of the site showed that from the public car park, that's not actually what you see . One
Would hope so. There's
A fence between the public car park and that area. Can you confirm that? Yes, yes, there is. So what the public will be seeing is mostly a fence rather than a building.
Yes, yeah. It's not— obviously that photograph was taken with the owner's permission. I accessed that — sorry, not the owner, the shop owner's permission. I accessed the rear there . So, yeah, the impact will be.. . Visual impact will be minimal , particularly because the car parking is located within the front from a different angle. Obviously, there's a small portion of car park located just south of the shop, and they'll obviously see the fence and a portion of the building, the addition, that is
And similarly, between the fence will be a visual barrier between the proposed development and the childcare centre in the adjoining street to the west . Yes, that is correct. There's a childcare centre there. It's slightly lower, so it's looking up at the site, but the fence would probably shield it.
Yes, that is correct. The other aspect is this building is in keeping with— sorry, did you say that you'd visited the site? Yeah. So I don't know if you noticed that the additions on the adjoining shop, this addition is actually keeping in line with the existing additions on the other shops located just north of it, so just adjoining it. So in terms of height and the area, it's in keeping with the existing shop arrangement at the moment. So it's more carrying on previous additions.
Anything further?
No, I'm finished.
Okay. Yes.
Yes, this powers two questions for Rogers, community rep. Yes, I know the facility well, and I know the produce of the butcher shop well. Excellent. Is the tenant aware of, and did they actually request this extension of the facilities for their work purposes?
Sorry, the tenant is the butcher.
Yes.
Yeah. So this application has obviously historically been a consultation between the property department at council and the butcher's shop. So they have put forward this proposed addition because they have wanted that work area.
So the tenant, the butcher shop, wants the extension to do the work?
Yes. Yeah
Okay. In terms of dislocation of works during the period of works, they'd obviously be aware that there'd be a period of dislocation, and no doubt that will be accommodated between council and the tenant. So they're aware that disruption will occur.
Yeah, they've been in consultation with the property department, so I can discuss that even further with the shop owner even further. But from all the conversations I've had with them, they've made it clear that they understand that construction works are going to be happening and that they're prepared for it. Ultimately, it's the opportunity for a greater work area. Once the works are completed, obviously will improve the functioning of the butcher's shop. in the long term.
Madam Chair, and for the board, I make this observation and comment because during both the fires and the floods, there's been just a huge amount of distillation and pressure on small shop owners within the Hawkesbury. And any additional distillation and disruption can have, no doubt, a dramatic financial consequence. So as long as they are aware and are consenting and seeking, I'm comfortable with the proposal. Certainly, the people of the Hawkesbury have had enough, as we all have, I think. So thank you for that. No further questions. Okay
So Mr. Powers, the applicant's name is Harry—Barry Munro, that's the butcher, is it?
Yes, Barry Munro is the owner of the butcher's shop. So it's operated, obviously, he's got his family operating and working with it, but yeah, he's the owner of the shop.
Okay, and do I assume that all the other adjoining shop owners or shop tenants, shop operators, were notified of this DA?
Yes, so notification was carried out. No submissions were received from it. Yes. So yes.
Thank you for that. Okay, is there anything further we want to say, anyone wants to say or anyone wants to speak about this item in the agenda? No.
Okay,
So right now then we have got to the end of our open session. There was something that I had neglected to do, which was to table, because we're working remotely, these formal matters, table the conflict
Sorry,
The conflicts of interest forms signed by the members of the panel today. So I move that the conflict of interest returns prepared by myself, John Brunton, Ian Stapleton and Paul Rogers be tabled in the meeting. Can I have a seconder for that?
Thank you, Mr Brunton. And that , in my understanding, concludes our open session.
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Outcome: Carried
Panel Decision
The Panel unanimously resolved that:
Development application DA0303/21 at Lot D DP 334004, 15 King Road Wilberforce for Commercial Premises - Shop Alterations & Additions be approved subject to the following conditions:
General Conditions
1. Approved Plans and Supporting Documentation
The development must be carried out in accordance with the approved plans and supporting documentation listed below which have been endorsed by Council's approved stamp, except where amended in red on the plans and/or amended by other conditions of consent:
a) Plans Reference:
| Drawing Reference No. | Drawing Description | Prepared by | Issue No. | Date |
|-------------------------|----------------------------|---------------------|-------------|-----------|
| 1 | Site and Floor Plan | Apted Plan Services | A | July 2021 |
| 2 | Section and Elevation Plan | Apted Plan Services | A | July 2021 |
b) Document Reference:
| Document Title | Reference | Prepared By | Date |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------|---------------------|-------------------|
| Evacuation Capability Assessment & Site Flood Emergency Response Plan | Ref No. 210060 | Urban City Planning | 08 October 2021 |
| Colour & Material Schedule | Shop 1-2 Wilberforce Shopping Centre | Urban City Planning | 30 September 2021 |
| Waste Management Plan | Shop 1-2 Wilberforce Shopping Centre | Urban City Planning | 08 October 2021 |
No works, other than those approved (including raising or lowering of ground levels on the site, or construction of retaining walls on any property boundary) are permitted by this consent.
Note: Details of the development shown in the approved plans and documents referenced are altered in the manner indicated by:
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- (i) any amendments made by Council on the approved plans or documents;
- (ii) any notes, markings, or stamps on approved plans or documents; and
- (iii) any conditions contained in this consent.
2. Works Must Not Commence Until a Construction Certificate is Issued
Construction or preparatory work (including earthworks or tree and/or vegetation removal) must not commence until:
- a) a Construction Certificate is obtained from either Council or an Accredited Certifier;
- b) a Principal Certifier is appointed; and
- c) a Notice of Commencement is lodged with Council.
Note: If the Construction Certificate is issued by an Accredited Certifier that is not Council it will be necessary to lodge the Construction Certificate and other approved documents with Council within two days of such approval (a registration fee is payable upon lodgement).
3. Appointment of a Principal Certifier
No work shall commence until:
- a) A Principal Certifier is appointed for the building/engineering works and the following details relating to the carrying out of the works have been provided:
2. (i) name and licence number of the builder/contractor undertaking the construction works; or
3. (ii) name and permit number of the owner-builder (if relevant);
- b) The Principal Certifier has:
5. (i) provided a copy of the notice of its determination to the consent authority, and to Council (within two days after the date of the determination);
6. (ii) notified the person having benefit of the consent of any critical stage inspections and other inspections that it requires to be carried out in relation to the approved work;
7. (iii) notified Council of its appointment (not less than two days before commencement of building work);
- c) The person having benefit of the consent (if not carrying out work as an owner-builder) has:
9. (i) appointed a principal contractor who must hold a 'contractor licence' if any residential building work is involved;
10. (ii) notified the Principal Certifier of the appointment of the principal contractor;
11. (iii) notified the principal contractor of any critical stage inspections or any other inspections that are required to be carried out in relation to the approved work; and
- d) At least two days' notice are to be provided to Council of the date on which it is proposed to commence work associated with this development consent.
4. Part 6 Certificates Required
The accredited certifier must provide copies of all Part 6 Certificates issued under the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act 1979 relevant to this development to Council within seven days of issuing the certificate.
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Note: A registration fee applies.
5. Occupation Certificate Required Prior to The Use Of The Building
The building must not be occupied or used prior to the issuing of an Occupation Certificate by the Principal Certifier. Where a partial Occupation Certificate has been issued, only that part of the building to which the Certificate applies may be occupied or used.
A copy of any Occupation Certificate must be submitted to Council within two days of its issue.
6. Prescribed Conditions - Compliance with National Construction Code
All building works must be carried out in accordance with the requirements of the National Construction Code (Building Code of Australia).
7. Archaeology - Discovered During Excavation
As required by the Heritage Act 1977 , in the event that items, relics, historical cultural fabric and/or deposits are encountered/discovered where they are not expected, works must cease immediately and Council and the NSW Government's Heritage Council must be notified of the discovery.
In the event that archaeological resources are encountered, further archaeological work may be required before works can re-commence, including the statutory requirement under the Heritage Act 1977 to obtain the necessary approvals/permits from the Heritage Council.
Note: The Heritage Act 1977 imposes substantial penalty infringements and / or imprisonment for the unauthorised destruction of archaeological resources, regardless of whether or not such archaeological resources are known to exist on the site.
8. Excavation - Aboriginal Relics
If any Aboriginal object (including evidence of habitation or remains) is discovered during the course of the work:
- a) all excavation or disturbance of the area must stop immediately in that area; and
- b) Heritage NSW must be advised of the discovery.
All necessary approvals from the Heritage NSW must be obtained and a copy provided to Council prior to works recommencing.
Note: If an Aboriginal object is discovered, an Aboriginal Heritage Impact Permit may be required under the National Parks and Wildlife Act 1974 .
Prior to the Issue of Construction Certificate
9. Long Service Levy Payment
The payment of a long service levy as required under Part 5 of the Building and Construction Industry Long Service Payments Act 1986 is required. Evidence that the levy has been paid, is to be submitted to the Principal Certifier prior to the issue of any Construction Certificate.
Note: All building and construction work costing $25,000 and above are subject to the payment of a Long Service Levy at the rate of 0.35%. Payments can be made at Long Service Payments Corporation offices or most councils.
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10. Section 7.12 (Monetary) Contributions
A contribution under Section 7.12 of the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act 1979 must be paid in accordance with the following:
a) Contribution Required
In accordance with Council's Section 7.12 (previously S94A) Contributions Plan 2015, a monetary contribution (indexed at the time of payment) must be paid to Council for the amount specified below.
b) Amount of Contribution
The amount of the contribution is $530.
This fee is based on the supplied value-of-works of $106,000.
The contribution amount detailed in (b) will be indexed at the time of actual payment in accordance with movement in the Consumer Price Index as published by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (Table 6401.0).
Contributions must be receipted by Council and evidence of payment submitted to the Accredited Certifier prior to the issue of any Construction Certificate.
Note: In the event that the estimated value of works increases in association with the Construction Certificate the Section 7.12 contribution payable is to be based on the revised value of works.
Please present a copy of this condition when paying the contribution at Council's Customer Service Centre in order to assist in recalculation of the contribution amount.
11. Compliance with the Building Code of Australia - Fire Services and Equipment
Detailed plans showing the existing and proposed fire services and equipment suitable for the intended class of building and proposed use, is to be supplied.
The design and installation of these services and equipment are to be compliant with the Building Code of Australia and relevant Australian Standards.
Details are to be provided to the Accredited Certifier prior to issue of the Construction Certificate.
12. Flood Prone Land - Flood Compatible Construction
All buildings must have flood compatible structural components up to and including the 100 year Average Recurrence Interval (ARI) flood level of RL 17.3 metres AHD. The materials used in the construction must be consistent with any structural engineering certificate regarding the ability of the building/structure to withstand the forces of floodwater.
A written specification of the proposed materials to be used must be provided to the Accredited Certifier prior to the issue of a Construction Certificate.
Note: Advice on suitability of materials for use on flood liable land can be found in the publication 'Reducing Vulnerability of Buildings to Flood Damage' (Chapter 4.3 Construction Materials).
13. Flood Prone Land - Engineers Certification
The 100 year Average Recurrence Interval (ARI) flood level for this site is RL 17.3 metres AHD (Australian Height Datum).
An engineer's certificate must be provided deeming compliance with the following requirements during a 100 year ARI flood event:
- b) Debris: Damage to the proposed structure/s sustained in a flood will not generate debris capable of causing damage to downstream buildings or property. This includes securing of utilities and equipment including tanks, A/C units and similar;
- c) Structural Soundness: Any part of the structure will be able to withstand the force of floodwaters (including lateral forces, buoyancy forces, unbalanced hydrostatic forces) and the impact of debris; and
- d) Foundations: The footing system must be structurally stable during flooding and must consider the soil properties when wet, possible erosion and scouring or liquefaction, subsidence or collapse due to saturation.
The Engineers Certificate must be submitted to the Certifier prior to issue of the Construction Certificate.
14. Food Premises - Design
To ensure that adequate provision is made for the cleanliness and maintenance of all food preparation areas, all building work in connection with the occupation or use of the premises for the preparation and storage of food must be designed and carried out in accordance with the requirements of:
- a) Food Act 2003 ;
- b) Food Regulation 2015 ;
- c) Australian Standard AS 4674 - 'Design, construction and fit-out of food premises';
The Construction Certificate plans and documentation must incorporate details of the following:
- a) construction, materials and finishes;
- b) installation of fixtures, fittings and equipment;
- c) washing facilities, other facilities and special requirements;
- d) mechanical ventilation and exhaust discharges; and
- e) temperature control.
Plans and specifications which comply with this condition must be submitted to the Accredited Certifier for approval prior to the issue of any Construction Certificate.
15. Food Premises - Waste Traps
Any bucket traps, grease traps and associated sewer connections must be installed in accordance with the requirements of the relevant water authority.
Details must be provided to the Accredited Certifier prior to the issue of the Construction Certificate.
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16. Food Premises - Construction and Fitout General Requirement
Detailed plans of the kitchen, bar and food preparation and storage areas must be prepared by a suitably qualified person and certified in accordance with Standard 3.2.3 of the Australian and New Zealand Food Standards Code under the Food Act 2003 and AS 4674 - Design, Construction and Fitout of Food Premises and must be submitted to and approved by Council prior to a Construction Certificate being issued.
- a) The construction, fitout and finishes of the food premises must comply with Standard 3.2.3 of the Australian and New Zealand Food Standards Code under the Food Act 2003 and Australian Standard AS 4674 - 'Design, construction and fitout of food premises'.
- e) The floor of the food premises must be finished in an approved non-absorbent material, evenly laid, or graded and drained to a trapped floor waste.
- f) The floor must be coved at the intersection with the walls.
- g) The walls of the food preparation area must be of solid construction and finished with glazed ceramic tiles or other rigid, smooth-faced impervious material.
- h) Ceilings within the food preparation and storage areas must be free of gaps and open joints and must be finished with an impervious sealed material. Drop in panels are not permitted in food preparation areas, food storage areas or areas where open food is displayed or served.
- i) Hand wash basin/s, with hot and cold running water mixed through a common spout, hand wash soap and hand drying facilities must be provided in all food preparation bar areas, and toilets used by food handlers and must be no further than 5m travel distance from a place where a food handler is handling food. All taps to hand wash basins must be hands free. (For example: sensor taps, knee operated taps or foot pedal taps). Liquid soap and paper towel dispensers or other hand drying facilities must be located next to and in close proximity the hand wash basin.
- t) All service pipes, electrical conduits, refrigeration condensate pipes and the like must be chased into walls and floors or at least 25mm off the wall.
- u) All openings in walls, floors and ceilings, through which service pipes pass, must be vermin proof.
- v) Where fittings are butt joined together they must be sealed to eliminate any cavities or crevices. Alternatively, a clear space of at least 75mm is to be provided between fittings.
Note: Copies of AS 4674 - 'Design, construction and fit-out of food premises' may be obtained from the Standards Australia Customer Service on telephone 1300 65 46 46 or by visiting the website www.standards.com.au <http://www.standards.com.au>.
Copies of the Food Standards Code (Australia) may be obtained by contacting the Food Standards Australia and New Zealand Authority on telephone (02) 6271 2222, email info@foodstandards.gov.au or by visiting the website www.foodstandards.gov.au.
Details satisfying the above are required to be submitted to the Accredited Certifier prior to the issue of the Construction Certificate.
17. Structural Engineers Design - Concrete and Structural Steel
A qualified Structural Engineer's design for all reinforced concrete and structural steel must be provided to the Accredited Certifier prior to issue of Construction Certificate.
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18. Basic Drainage Plan
A basic drainage plan of the site must be submitted and approved prior to the issue of the Construction Certificate. The plan must:
- a) drain to the existing roofwater drains;
- b) be to the satisfaction of the Certifier; and
- c) comply with the Hawkesbury Development Control Plan 2002 - Appendix E and Australian Standard AS 3500 - 'Plumbing and Drainage' unless a variation is specifically noted and approved by the Development Application concept drainage plan.
Prior to Any Works Commencing on Site
19. Principal Certifier - Details
The applicant must advise Council of the name, address and contact number of the Principal Certifier, in accordance with Section 6.6(2) of the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act 1979 .
20. Toilet Facilities
Toilet facilities must be available or provided at the work site before works begin and must be maintained until the works are completed at a ratio of one toilet plus one additional toilet for every 20 persons employed at the site.
Each toilet must:
- a) be a standard flushing toilet connected to a public sewer;
- b) be attached to an approved on-site effluent disposal system;
- c) be a temporary chemical closet that is regularly maintained; and
- d) appropriate facilities for the disposal of sanitary items are to be provided within the toilet.
21. Survey Certificate - Building to be Verified by a Registered Surveyor
In order to ensure compliance with approved plans, a Survey Certificate, prepared by a Registered Surveyor, including locating any easements affecting the subject land, is to be undertaken:
- a) a set-out survey prior to the placement of any footings showing the proposed building and its relationship to the boundaries;
Progress surveys must be submitted to the Principal Certifier at the time of carrying out relevant progress inspections. Under no circumstances is work allowed to proceed should such survey information be unavailable or reveal discrepancies between the approved plans and the works as constructed.
22. Notice of Commencement
No work shall commence until a notice of commencement has been provided to Council. This notice is to be provided not less than two days from the date on which it is proposed to commence work associated with this Development Consent. The notice must also contain:
- a) details of the appointment of a Principal Certifier (PCA) providing name, address and telephone number; and
- b) details of the name, address and licence details of the Builder.
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23. Prescribed Conditions - Shoring and Adequacy of Adjoining Property
Development that involves an excavation that extends below the level of the base of the footings of a building, structure or work (including any structure or work within a road or rail corridor) on adjoining land, the person having the benefit of the development consent must, at the person's own expense:
- a) protect and support the building, structure or work from possible damage from the excavation; and
- b) where necessary, underpin the building, structure or work to prevent any such damage.
Note: This condition does not apply if the person having the benefit of the development consent owns the adjoining land or the owner of the adjoining land has given consent in writing to that condition not applying.
24. Principal Certifier Site Sign
A sign must be erected in a prominent position on any site on which building work, subdivision work or demolition work is being carried out:
- a) showing the name, address and telephone number of the Principal Certifier for the work;
- b) showing the name of the principal contractor (if any) for any building work and a telephone number on which that person may be contacted outside working hours; and
- c) stating that unauthorised entry to the work site is prohibited.
Any such sign is to be maintained while the building work, subdivision work or demolition work is being carried out, but must be removed when the work has been completed.
25. Safety Fencing
The site is to be secured by a fence, in accordance with Safework NSW requirements, to prevent unauthorised access during the period of all works.
26. Erosion and Sediment Control for Minor Development
Erosion and sediment control devices are to be installed and maintained until the site is fully stabilised in accordance with Hawkesbury Council's publication Guidelines for Erosion and Sediment control on a building site (2017).
27. Sydney Water - Endorsement of Approved Plans
The approved plans must be submitted to and endorsed by Sydney Water via the 'Sydney Water Tap-in' website to determine whether the development will affect Sydney Water's water mains, stormwater drains and/or easements, and if further requirements need to be met. Plans will be appropriately stamped.
Please refer to Sydney Water's website.
Evidence of the building plan approval must be forwarded to the Principal Certifier prior to the commencement of works.
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During Construction
28. Construction Hours
Clearing of land, running of machinery, excavation, and/or earthworks, building works and the delivery of building materials must be carried out between the following hours:
- a) between 7am and 6pm, Mondays to Fridays inclusive;
- b) between 8am and 4pm, Saturdays;
- c) no work on Sundays and public holidays; and
- d) works may be undertaken outside these hours where:
5. (i) the delivery of vehicles, plant or materials is required outside these hours by the Police or other authorities;
6. (ii) it is required in an emergency to avoid the loss of life, damage to property and/or to prevent environmental harm; and
7. (iii) a variation is approved in advance in writing by Council.
29. Site Management During Construction
The following requirements relating to site management apply during and immediately following construction:
- a) All materials and equipment must be stored wholly within the work site unless an approval to store them elsewhere is held.
- b) Waste materials (including excavation, demolition and construction waste materials) must be managed on the site and then disposed of at a waste management facility.
- c) Copies of receipts stating the following must be given to the Principal Certifier:
4. (i) the place to which waste materials were transported;
5. (ii) the name of the contractor transporting the materials; and
6. (iii) the quantity of materials transported off-site and recycled or disposed of.
- d) Any run-off and erosion control measures required must be maintained within their operating capacity until the completion of the works to prevent debris escaping from the site into drainage systems, waterways, adjoining properties and roads.
- e) During construction:
9. (i) all vehicles entering or leaving the site must have their loads covered;
10. (ii) all vehicles, before leaving the site, must be cleaned of dirt, sand and other materials, to avoid tracking these materials onto public roads; and
11. (iii) any public place affected by works must be kept lit between sunset and sunrise if it is likely to be hazardous to the public.
- f) At the completion of the works, the work site must be left clear of waste and debris.
Note: In the event it is not possible to keep the footpath or road reserve clear during construction works written approval from Council must be obtained prior to any closing of the road reserve or footpath area. The closure must take place in accordance with Council's written approval. The area must be signposted and such signposting be maintained in a way that ensures public safety at all times.
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30. Loading and Unloading During Construction
The following requirements relating to loading and unloading apply during construction:
- a) All loading and unloading associated with construction activity must be accommodated on site.
- b) If, during excavation, it is not feasible for loading and unloading to take place on site, a Works Zone on the street may be considered by Council.
- c) A Works Zone may be required if loading and unloading is not possible on site. If a Works Zone is warranted an application must be made to Council at least 8 weeks prior to commencement of work on the site. An approval for a Works Zone may be given for a specific period and certain hours of the days to meet the particular need for the site for such facilities at various stages of construction. The approval will be reviewed periodically for any adjustment necessitated by the progress of the construction activities.
- d) Where hoisting activity over the public place is proposed to be undertaken including hoisting from a Works Zone, a separate approval must be obtained from Council.
31. Critical Stage Inspections
Prior to the commencement of building work and at nominated stages during the construction of the building, a minimum of 48 hours' notice is required to be provided to allow the Principal Certifier to ensure that the critical stage inspections are undertaken.
Note: Critical stage inspections are required to be carried out in accordance with Clause 162A of the Environmental Planning & Assessment Regulation 2000 .
32. Overland Stormwater Flow Management
The works associated with the development must ensure that:
- a) all natural water flow from adjoining properties is not impeded or diverted; and
- b) surface and subsurface water flows are not redirected or concentrated onto adjoining properties.
33. Stormwater Drainage Management
Roof water (including overflow from water storage vessels) must be drained to the existing roofwater drains.
Prior to Issue of Occupation Certificate
34. Flood Prone Land - Awareness and Evacuation
The following requirements are to be prepared and installed prior to the issue of any Occupation Certificate:
- a) The Business Manager and Shop Staff are to be made aware of the approved Site Flood Emergency Response Plan prepared by Urban City Planning (dated 08/10/21) and advice occupants of the flood evacuation procedures and emergency telephone numbers. The evacuation procedures must be permanently fixed to the building in a prominent location and maintained at all times; and
- b) A flood warning sign is to be provided advising occupants that the site may be subject to inundation during times of flood. The sign must be constructed of durable material and installed in a prominent location within the site.
HAWKESBURY LOCAL PLANNING PANEL MEETING
Minutes:
17 March 2022
35. Food Premises - Certification of Fit-out
Prior to the issue of any Occupation Certificate the food premises must be inspected by an appropriately qualified person who must certify that the premises, including the construction and installation of all equipment, fixtures, fittings and finishes therein, complies with the Food Act 2003 , Food Regulation 2010 and Australian Standard AS 4674 - 'Design, construction and fit-out of food premises'.
36. Fire Safety Certificate
A Final Fire Safety Certificate for all new (or altered) fire safety measures is required to be provided to Council prior to the issue of an Occupation Certificate.
Advisory Notes
(i) Equitable Access
The applicant must make themselves aware of the Discrimination Against People with Disabilities Act (DDA) and assess their responsibilities and liabilities with regards to the provision of access for all people.
(ii) Acid Sulfate Soils - Monitoring of Excavation During Works
All excavations are to be monitored to ensure that acid sulphate soils are not encountered during works. Signs that may indicate the presence of acid sulphate soils include:
- a) change in colour of the soil into grey and green tones;
- b) effervescence;
- c) the release of sulphur smelling gases such as sulphur dioxide or hydrogen sulphide; and
- d) lowering of the soil Ph by at least one unit.
Should any of the above indicators be present excavation work on the site is to stop and Council is to be notified to determine what action is required to be taken before work may commence.
(iii) Site Contamination Discovered During Demolition or Construction
Should any new information come to light during demolition or construction works which has the potential to alter previous conclusions about contamination, Council must be immediately notified and works must cease. Works must not recommence on site until an agreed management strategy is developed in consultation with Council.
(iv) Dial Before You Dig
Prior to commencement of work, you are required to contact the free national community service 'Dial Before You Dig' on 1100 regarding the location of underground services in order to prevent injury, personal liability and even death. Enquiries should provide the property details and the nearest cross street/road.
(v) Requirements of 88B Instrument
The applicant must make themselves aware of any User Restriction, Easements and Covenants to this property and must comply with the requirements of any Section 88B Instrument relevant to the property in order to prevent the possibility of legal proceedings against them.
Item documents
Agenda item chapter 6
Decisions Of Closed Session And Closing Of Meeting
It's Louise Burn here, Chair of the Hawkesbury Local Planning Panel meeting of today. I'd like to record the decisions of the planning panel on each of the items on the agenda today. Item 2, which was the proposed childcare centre at 6 Keeda Circuit, North Richmond. The decision is approved. Item 3, which is the Ecotourism facilities at 88B Balgamatta Road, Barangbing. That DA is deferred to the next planning meeting, currently scheduled for the 21st of April 2022. Item 4 was the extension to the butcher shop in the Wilberforce Shopping Centre at 15 King Road, Wilberforce. That DA is approved. Unless there's anything further, I would now close the meeting.
Thank you.
