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This is the Hawkesbury Local Planning Panel meeting today, on Thursday the 16th of July, taking place on screen and people at the council as well. This panel has been appointed by the Minister for Planning and Public Spaces and the Council to determine certain categories of development applications. My name is Mary-Lynne Taylor, and I am the Chairperson for today's panel. The other panellists with me today are Mr Gary Chapman, who's an expert representative, Mr Philip North, expert representative, and Ms Laura Scriven, who is the community member.

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I would like to begin by acknowledging the traditional custodians of the land of the Dharug people, their elders past and present. As a courtesy to others, please keep your microphones on mute at all times unless I call on you to speak. This meeting is being audio-visually recorded. Any part of this meeting that is held in a closed session will not be recorded. In the terms of the Privacy and Personal Information Protection Act, this may involve the recording of personal information provided at the time of the meeting. The recordings are made to assist staff in compiling the minutes of the meeting and to enable the podcasting and live stream of local planning panel meetings. Under the panel's code of conduct, panel members are required to disclose any pecuniary and/or non-pecuniary interests in relation to matters on today's agenda, and each panellist has completed disclosure forms.

I declare that I have no conflict of interests. I will now ask each of the panel members whether they have any conflicts of interest to declare. Gary Chapman?

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The panel will deal with the items in agenda order. The determinations of the panel will be confirmed in the official minutes, which will be available on the Council's website. On the agenda today is 2.1.1, DA 0139/26, about 1 Livingstone Street, Windsor, and 2.1.2, DA 0186/26, 276 Spinks Road, Glossodia. We have registered speakers for item 2.1.1, and I believe they are already with us: Benjamin Chan, Christine Guan, Adrian Mello, and Luke Meredith for item 2.1. For item 2.1.2, Craig Olson, Director, CEO Design and Consult, is expected to attend. We also have council people as well. Those are all of the matters that I need to say until we move on to the next item.

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Good morning all. Whether the council's architect, Sam Crawford Architects, I'll actually pass it on to Adrian Mello, who's our consultant planner, just to introduce the project for us. Thank you.

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Panel, sorry, struggling to find the mute button. So the consultant planner part of the project team who prepared the application and just wants to speak in favour of the council recommendation, noting that we support the recommendation and have reviewed the conditions. I don't necessarily feel the need to go into a large overview. The panel's gone to site, has reviewed the documentation, is familiar with it, but we're here available to answer any questions the panel may have.

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Thank you very much. So those are all the people who are here to speak to us formally today. So then I ask the panel members. We have Benjamin Chan from Sand Croft Architects, Christine Guan from Sand Croft Architects, and Adrian Lello, who is an external planner, and Luke Meredith, flood engineer. So starting with questions for those particular people, I'll ask first of all, Gary Chapman, do you have any particular questions to ask of those teams of experts with us today? Chair

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Thanks for the question. Look, it's something that we'll probably come back and revisit post-consent. At this point in time, we're not proposing to have any sort of live venues or live music or anything like that. But obviously noting the nature of the structure and that it's intended ongoing use as effectively as a community hub for events and things, and noting that there are some festivals that do occur along the river, that's something that at this point in time we're not seeking consent for or proposing. But noting that, you know, after the operation of the facility and it's up and running, perhaps that's something that we will come back and revisit.

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Look, the only question now, if, Chair, is I was just interested when I was going through this about the emergency evacuation, and I've read your report and I can see where that occurs and that there's warnings in place and all those procedures that you have. But I wondered whether there's the option, and you can tell me whether I'm right or wrong here, of if, you know, whether there's stay in place at the upper level, and because there are toilet facilities, there's kitchen facilities, so is that an option? I didn't see it in the report, but I could be wrong.

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It's not something I would recommend for this site. It's largely riverine flooding, so there should be a good lead time in terms of warnings, etc., from SES. The issue with flooding is that, you know, you could prescribe a certain event and expect the water to get to a certain level, but it's based on modelling and historical records. There's no guarantee that. It will, it may be higher or lower than that. So if you were to say go to the upper storeys, you may not necessarily be safe there. So really the only recommendation is that, yeah, to follow local warnings and make sure that the site is evacuated in advance.

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Is that correct , panel members? Yeah, correct. Correct. Very much. In result then, I think that we don't need to continue the public meeting, and the panel now go to close the meeting and to make our decision. Thank you.

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