Before you continue to HAIKU AI

Access to the Hawkesbury City Council Meeting Hansard-style transcript system does not require a login. However, use of the HAIKU AI system requires you to login with a free account to prevent abuse. There is no cost. Privacy is assured. You can single-sign-on with an existing Google or Apple credential, or register for a login via email address and password.

Whole-meeting item map

14 meeting chapters across 1:49:18. Select a coloured band to jump to the start of that chapter, or drag the position marker to move through the transcript; light grey means procedural or unassigned dialogue.

Chapter 1 · WELCOME

About this transcript

This transcript and its speaker attributions may contain errors. Speaker names may be corrected in later releases. Official Council minutes remain authoritative.

I believe this project makes Hawkesbury Council the first Council in Australia to offer the accountability of a searchable meeting transcript.

Meeting contents

Agenda item chapter 1

WELCOME

Les Sheather

Good evening and welcome to Hawkesbury City Council meeting of the 8th of September 2026. I'd like to welcome those who are attending the meeting in the gallery tonight, as well as those that may be attending online. Hawkesbury City Council acknowledges the Darug and Dharugung people as the traditional custodians of the land of the Hawkesbury. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging, and acknowledge all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people as First People of this country. General Manager.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Thank you, Mr Mayor. Members of the public attending the meeting are advised that in the event of an emergency, you will be asked to proceed in an orderly manner to the nearest exit following the guidance of our warden. I would also like to advise that in accordance with clause 5.33 of the Code of Meeting Practice, meetings of the Council are recorded. In the terms of the Privacy and Personal Information Protection Act, this may involve the recording of personal information provided at the time of the meeting. The recordings are made to assist staff in compiling the minutes of the meeting and to enable the podcasting and live stream of Council meetings. The provision of any information that is recorded is voluntary.

If any person does not wish to be recorded, they should not address or request to address the meeting. The gallery can be seen in the live stream video. If you do not wish to be recorded in the live stream, please move to the foyer and we will turn the foyer speakers on for you. The recordings may be made available to other persons where such access is in accordance with the relevant regulations. The recording is stored on Council's record management system and uploaded to Council's website. Meetings of the Council may be separately recorded with the prior authority of Council. For the benefit of those persons who will be addressing the Council tonight, it is expected that you will refrain from making any insult, allegation or personal reflection against any person present or not at this meeting.

This request relates to both your address to Council and any answers given in response to questions from councillors. Finally, it is also requested that if any person participating in or attending the meeting has a mobile phone, that they either turn it off or turn it to silent. Thank you, Mr Mayor. Thank you, General Manager.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Les Sheather

I'd like to acknowledge two former councillors in the gallery this evening, former Councillor Christine Payne and Patrick Conley. This evening we've got some awards, some presentations, and I'll pass

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Get my good side here. Thank you, Mr Mayor. I'm happy to present the Local Government Service Awards this evening to five current councillors. As you are all aware, Hawkesbury Council as a whole is committed to our community in every way, and our elected representatives, you have shown in your daily actions of serving on the council how much this area and its people mean to you. And that is an achievement worthy of celebration. The Local Government Service Awards recognise your years of service and your longstanding commitment to the success of the Hawkesbury. Tonight we celebrate five, as I mentioned, five councillors. The first, with 25 years, is Councillor Jill Reardon. Please come forward, Jill. Thank you, Councillor Reardon, for your 25 years of service to our council, and congratulations. Next

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Thank you, councillors. And for those councillors receiving an award after the finalisation of the election for the Mayor and the Deputy Mayor, we'll just take a few quick photos in the Windsor Boardroom.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Les Sheather

Congratulations, councillors. For those who didn't get the award just yet or have got them prior, congratulations to you as well. All councillors are present, so there is no apologies. Declarations of interest and matters before council tonight. Councillor Wheeler.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader

Agenda item chapter 2

GM - Election of Mayor

Official meeting record

Council decision and source documents

Outcome: Carried

186 Resolution

RESOLVED on the motion of Councillor Zamprogno, seconded by Councillor Dogramaci.

This is page 14 of the Minutes of the ORDINARY MEETING of the HAWKESBURY CITY COUNCIL held in the Council Chambers, on 8 September 2026.

ORDINARY MEETING

10. REPORTS FOR DETERMINATION

Meeting Date: 8 September 2026

That the election for the position of Mayor of Hawkesbury City Council for the September 2026 to September 2028 Mayoral Term be carried out by Ordinary (secret ballot).

Motion — Carried

For: Sheather, Creed, Djuric, Dogramaci, Kotlash, Lyons-Buckett, McMahon, Reardon, Ryan, Veigel, Wheeler, Zamprogno

Against: Nil

Absent: Sarah McMahon, Les Sheather, Mary Lyons-Buckett, Sarah McMahon withdrew her nomination

Motion — Carried

For: Sheather, Djuric, Dogramaci, Kotlash, Lyons-Buckett, McMahon, Ryan, Zamprogno

Against: Wheeler, Veigel, Reardon, Creed

Absent: Nil

Item documents

Les Sheather

10.2.4 also. Any further? Thank you, councillors. Council will now move to the first item on the agenda, being the election of mayor. Councillors, do I have a mover for the recommendation on page 19 of the business paper? Councillor Creed. Councillor Weigel. Is there any discussion? Those in favour? Against? Carried. Councillor Wheeler and Councillor Lyons-Buckett

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Councillors, the nomination forms for the election of the mayor were circulated to councillors prior to the meeting. I've received three nominations for the election of mayor of Hawkesbury City Council, and in the order of receipt, I have Councillor Sarah McMahon, Councillor Les Sheather, and Councillor Mary Lyons-Buckett. I've examined these nominations and declare them to be valid nominations in accordance with Schedule 7 of the Local Government General Regulation 2021. Councillors, are there any further nominations?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Councillors, as we have more than one nominee for the role of mayor. Council must determine by resolution the method of voting for the election of Mayor to the Hawkesbury City Council. The options are open voting, that is a show of hands, ordinary ballot, being a secret ballot, or preferential ballot, being a secret ballot also. Councillors, can I please have a motion as to the preferred method of voting for the election of Mayor. Councillor Zamprogno. Thank you, Councillor Zamprogno. Is there a seconder? Councillor Dogramaci. Councillors, is there any discussion on the motion? I

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

We have a motion before us. Would you like to move? So we have a motion before us. If there's no discussion, I'll put it to the vote, and then subject to the result, there may be an opportunity for another motion. Councillors, I would now like to put the motion. All those in favour of the motion moved by Councillor Zamprogno and seconded by Councillor Dogramaci, please raise your hand. That is by secret ballot. For is Councillor Zamprogno, Councillor Lyons-Buckett, Councillor Peter Ryan, Councillor Eddie Dogramaci, Councillor Les Sheather, Councillor Sarah McMahon, Councillor Amanda Kotlash, Councillor Shane Djuric. And those against? Councillor Danielle Wheeler, Councillor Paul Veigel, Councillor Jill Reardon, Councillor Mike Creed. I declare the motion carried. Councillors

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

The role of Mayor will be by ordinary ballot, that is by secret ballot. In other words, by placing an X against the candidate of the councillor's choice. Councillors, as I mentioned, I have received nominations from Councillor Sheather and Councillor Mary Lyons-Buckett. Councillors, we will now prepare the ballot papers by determining the order of the names of the candidates to appear on the ballot paper. So

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

The first councillor drawn is Councillor Sheather, and the second councillor drawn is Councillor Mary Lyons-Buckett. So, Councillors, if you can just bear with us for a few minutes while we prepare the ballot paper, we'll get those printed off and circulated to you in a moment.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Councillor Mary Lyons-Buckett . One vote for Councillor Mary Lyons-Buckett. One vote for Councillor Mary Lyons-Buckett. One vote for Councillor Mary Lyons-Buckett. One vote for Councillor Mary Lyons-Buckett. One vote for Councillor Les Sheather. One vote for Councillor Les Sheather. One vote for Councillor Les Sheather. One vote

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

To Councillor... Councillors, Councillor Mary Lyons-Buckett has the higher number of votes and as a result, I declare that Councillor Mary Lyons-Buckett is elected as Mayor of the Hawkesbury City Council for the September 2026 to September 2028 Mayoral term. Thank you.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

Thank you, everybody. I would just like—I know we have to get on with the Deputy Mayor, and we actually do have quite a big meeting tonight as well. So I'd just like to thank my colleagues for supporting me, for putting their faith in me to do this job. And I'd particularly like to thank Councillor Sheather for his dedication and his hard work for the past two years, and to Councillor McMahon for her Deputy Mayor role in those two years. A lot's been achieved, and I hope to carry that on, and that we will all work together. And as we're all committed to doing the best for the Hawkesbury, I hope that we can all work to achieve that. So I won't keep talking, as you know I all could, but we should move on with the next section, which do you do or do I do?

Okay, I do. Okay, the election of Deputy Mayor. We now move to the second item of the agenda. I have come up here without my glasses, by the way. That's okay. I think I can see. It's in big red writing. Thank you, Nathan. That might help. Thank you very much. Thank you. Councillors, do I have a mover for the recommendation on page 27 of the business paper? Moved, Councillor Creed, seconded, Councillor Reardon. Thank you. That is that in accordance with Schedule 7 of the Local Government General Regulation 2021, the General Manager, as returning officer, conduct the election of the Deputy Mayor of Hawkesbury City Council for the September 2026 to September 2028 mayoral term. Was moved by Councillor Creed and— yep, thank you.

Okay. Would anyone like to speak on that before we start? No? Okay. I would now like to put that motion forward. All those in favour of the motion? It's unanimous. Would you like me to call them all out, or you've got it? Yep, unanimous. I declare that motion carried. I'll now hand over to the General Manager as Returning Officer to do the Deputy Mayor selection. Thank

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader

Agenda item chapter 3

GM - Election of Deputy Mayor

Official meeting record

Council decision and source documents

Outcome: Carried

188 Resolution

RESOLVED on the motion of Councillor Zamprogno, seconded by Councillor Dogramaci.

That the election for the position of Deputy Mayor of Hawkesbury City Council for the September 2026 to September 2028 Mayoral Term be carried out by Ordinary (secret ballot).

Motion — Carried

For: Sheather, Creed, Djuric, Dogramaci, Kotlash, Lyons-Buckett, McMahon, Reardon, Ryan, Veigel, Wheeler, Zamprogno

Against: Nil

Absent: The, Mary Lyons-Buckett vacated the Chair for the General Manager, Will Barton as Returning Officer, to conduct the election of Deputy, Mike Creed, Nathan Zamprogno, Les Sheather, Amanda Kotlash

Motion — Carried

For: Sheather, Djuric, Dogramaci, Kotlash, Lyons-Buckett, McMahon, Reardon, Zamprogno

Against: Creed, Veigel, Wheeler

Absent: 1 Les Sheather, 2 Mike Creed, 3 Amanda Kotlash, 4 Nathan Zamprogno

Item documents

Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

You. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Councillors, the nomination forms for the election of the Deputy Mayor were circulated to Councillors prior to the meeting tonight. I have received four nominations for the election of Deputy Mayor of Hawkesbury City Council. In the order of receipt, I have Councillor Mike Creed, Councillor Nathan Zamprogno, Councillor Sheather, and Councillor Amanda Kotlash. Councillors, are there any further nominations for Deputy Mayor?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Okay. Councillors, as we have more than one nomination for the role of Deputy Mayor, the Council must determine by resolution— No , sorry, this is your part, Madam Mayor.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

Thank you. Councillors, as we have more than one nominee for the role of Deputy Mayor, the Council must determine by resolution the method of voting for the election of Deputy Mayor to Hawkesbury City Council. The options are open voting, ordinary ballot, or preferential ballot. Councillors, can I please have a motion as to the preferred method of voting for the election of Deputy Mayor. Councillor Zamprogno A secret ballot. Okay. A seconder, Councillor Dogramaci. All those in favour? Okay. In favour are Councillor Zamprogno, Councillor Ryan, Councillor Dogramaci, Councillor Sheather, Councillor McMahon, Councillor Kotlash, Councillor Reardon, and Councillor Djuric. Those against? Councillor Wheeler, Councillor Veigel, and Councillor Creed. The motion is carried , and me—I'm sorry, I've forgotten. I'm just getting used to it. I'll vote for the secret ballot. Thank you

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Thank you, Madam Mayor. Councillors, as I have received—I have received nominations from Councillor Mike Creed, Councillor Les Sheather, Councillor Nathan Zamprogno, and Councillor Amanda Kotlash. As four nominations have been received for Deputy Mayor, an election will now be conducted by—sorry. No, wrong one. By secret ballot. Thank you. I have to get to the right page. So, Councillors, it has been resolved that the method for voting for the role of Deputy Mayor will be by ordinary ballot, in other words, by placing an X against the candidate of the councillor's choice. Councillors, I've received nominations, as I mentioned, from Councillor Mike Creed, Councillor Les Sheather, Councillor Nathan Zamprogno, and Councillor Amanda Kotlash.

Councillors, as we have four nominations and the method for voting was resolved by way of ordinary ballot, that is a secret vote, we will now conduct the vote. Sorry, bear with me. Just on the tally sheet. To determine the position of names on the tally sheet. Councillor Mike Creed. Councillor Les Sheather. Councillor Nathan Zamprogno. And Councillor Amanda Kotlash.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Second is Councillor Mike Creed. Sorry, as you can all see it from there. Third is Councillor Amanda Kotlash. And fourth is Councillor Nathan Zamprogno. As again, Councillors, we will go and prepare the ballot paper. If you can bear with us for a few minutes while we do that. Thank you. Councillors, I'll

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Unknown

Nathan Zamprogno. Councillor Nathan Zamprogno. Councillor Les Sheather . Councillor Nathan Zamprogno. Councillor Amanda Kotlash. Councillor Mike Creed. Councillor Mike Creed. Councillor Mike Creed. And Councillor Mike Creed. So I've got one for Les, four for Mike, one for Amanda. So, Councillors, the count of the first round is six votes for Councillor Nathan Zamprogno, four votes for Councillor Mike Creed, one vote for Amanda Kotlash, and one vote for Councillor Les Sheather. As we have two councillors sitting on one vote each, we will now determine by lot which councillor is excluded from the vote. I have Councillor

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Councillor Nathan Zamprogno. Councillor Amanda Kotlash. Councillor Nathan Zamprogno. Councillor Nathan Zamprogno. Councillor Nathan Zamprogno. Councillor Mike Creed. Councillor Nathan Zamprogno.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Councillors , the count on that round of voting was Councillor Nathan Zamprogno with eight, Councillor Mike Creed with three, and Councillor Amanda Kotlash with one. Councillors, I declare that Councillor Kotlash is excluded from the ballot. Councillors, now that we are down— Yes. Councillors, now that we are down to two candidates, we will now prepare the ballot papers for the last round of voting to determine the Deputy Mayor. Excuse me General Manager. Yes, Councillor Creed.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mike Creed

Given that there was a majority, I'm more than happy to withdraw my nomination and congratulate Councillor Zamprogno if that works. Save us having to go through another round. I think it's fairly evident.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Thank you, Councillor Creed. We'll just go and grab Vandanah. She's too efficient. She's already gone to get the ballot papers. But with Councillor Creed withdrawing from the ballot for position of Deputy Mayor, I declare that Councillor Nathan Zamprogno is the Deputy Mayor for the Mayoral term 2026 to 2028.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader

Agenda item chapter 4

GM - Appointment of Committees, Delegates and Representatives

Official meeting record

Council decision and source documents

Outcome: Carried

189 Resolution

RESOLVED on the motion of Councillor Kotlash, seconded by Councillor Veigel.

That Council:

1. Nominate and appoint its delegates and representatives to the various Committees as outlined in this report to align with the period of the Mayoral Term, being from September 2026 to September 2028.

| Committee | Function | Councillor Representation | Current Councillor Representation |

|---------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

| a) Committees of Council | a) Committees of Council | a) Committees of Council | a) Committees of Council |

| Disaster and Emergency Committee | The delegated authority to provide advice and recommend policies to Council in line with the adopted Disaster and Emergency Committee Constitution. | All Councillors | All Councillors |

| General Manager's Performance Review Panel (See Note 1 below) | The delegated authority to undertake the end-to-end process of performance review and performance management of the General Manager in line with the Office of Local Government's 'Guidelines for the Appointment and Oversight of General Managers'. | Mayor Deputy Mayor One Councillor nominated by Council One Councillor nominated by the General Manager | Councillor Lyons- Buckett, Mayor Councillor Zamprogno, Deputy Mayor Councillor Veigel One Councillor nominated by the General Manager Councillor |

| b) Statutory Committees | b) Statutory Committees | b) Statutory Committees | b) Statutory Committees |

| Audit, Risk and Improvement Committee | Established under Section 428A of the Local Government Act 1993, this Committee provides independent assurance and assistance to Council on risk management, control, | One Councillor (cannot be the Mayor) | Councillor Kotlash Councillor Veigel (Alternate) |

ORDINARY MEETING 10. REPORTS FOR DETERMINATION

Meeting Date: 8 September 2026

| Committee | Function | Councillor Representation | Current Councillor Representation |

|-------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

| | governance and external accountability responsibilities. | [It is recommended to appoint a Councillor Alternate to attend only in instances of absence] | |

| Local Transport Forum | Replacing the Local Traffic Committee, this Committee is an advisory body to support Council as decision-makers for unclassified roads and regional roads. It offers technical advice, coordination and expertise. It is not an approval body and does not make decisions. | One Councillor [It is recommended to appoint a Councillor Alternate to attend only in instances of absence] | Councillor Creed Councillor Ryan (Alternate) |

| c) Advisory Committees and Working Groups | c) Advisory Committees and Working Groups | c) Advisory Committees and Working Groups | c) Advisory Committees and Working Groups |

| Floodplain Management Advisory Committee | Established to assist Council in the development and implementation of the NSW Government's Flood Management Policies and strategies to manage flood risk in the Hawkesbury local government area. | Four Councillors | Councillor Lyons- Buckett Councillor Wheeler Councillor Sheather |

| Heritage Advisory Committee | Established to provide strategic, expert and impartial advice to Council on the development, implementation, monitoring and review of Council's heritage strategies and related policies, plans and actions. | Five Councillors | Councillor Djuric Councillor Lyons- Buckett Councillor Reardon Councillor Wheeler Councillor Zamprogno |

| Heritage Awards Working Group | Established to assist in the assessment and celebration of awards that recognise built conservation works, including restoration, renovation and adaptive reuse, that maintain local heritage. | One Councillor from the Heritage Advisory Committee | Nil |

| Heritage Listings Working Group | Established to assist Council with the review and recommendation of properties for heritage protection, ensuring consistent management of local streetscapes, promoting conservation, and facilitating community understanding of heritage value within planning frameworks. | One Councillor from the Heritage Advisory Committee | Nil |

| Windsor Bridge Artefacts | Established to provide advice and recommendations to inform Council's consideration of the conservation, | One Councillor from the Heritage | Nil |

This is page 20 of the Minutes of the ORDINARY MEETING of the HAWKESBURY CITY COUNCIL held in the Council Chambers, on 8 September 2026.

ORDINARY MEETING

10. REPORTS FOR DETERMINATION Meeting Date: 8 September 2026

| Committee | Function | Councillor Representation | Current Councillor Representation |

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

| Working Group | interpretation and display of the Old Windsor Bridge artefacts. | Advisory Committee | |

| Windsor Toll House Working Group | Established to assist Council progress the State Heritage listing of the Windsor Toll House. | One Councillor from the Heritage Advisory Committee | Nil |

| d) Committees, Groups or Bodies in which Council has a Financial or Community Interest | d) Committees, Groups or Bodies in which Council has a Financial or Community Interest | d) Committees, Groups or Bodies in which Council has a Financial or Community Interest | d) Committees, Groups or Bodies in which Council has a Financial or Community Interest |

| McMahon Park Management Committee | Incorporated body with delegated responsibility for the care, control and management of McMahon Park. | One Councillor One Councillor alternate | Councillor Reardon Alternate - Councillor Lyons-Buckett |

| Hawkesbury Sports Council | Incorporated body with delegated responsibility for the care, control and management of Council's active playing fields. | One Councillor One Councillor alternate | Councillor Sheather, Alternate - Councillor Veigel |

| CivicRisk Mutual | A self-insurance agency established by consortium of participating Councils. | One Councillor | Councillor Creed |

| Outer Western Sydney Alliance (formerly Western Parkland City | A regional, incorporated body comprising Hawkesbury, Blue Mountains, Penrith, Wollondilly, Liverpool, Camden and Campbelltown Councils, established to advocate for and progress the delivery of social, economic and environmental benefits and outcomes for the Outer Western Sydney Region. | Mayor | Councillor Lyons- Buckett, Mayor |

| Hawkesbury Sister City Association | An incorporated body responsible for coordinating Sister City activities. | Two Councillors | Councillor Creed Councillor Lyons- Buckett Councillor Ryan |

| Committee | Function | Councillor Representation | Current Councillor Representation |

| d) Other Committees, Groups or Bodies which require Councillor representation | d) Other Committees, Groups or Bodies which require Councillor representation | d) Other Committees, Groups or Bodies which require Councillor representation | d) Other Committees, Groups or Bodies which require Councillor representation |

| NSW Public Libraries | Established to represent and support the interests of NSW public libraries. | One Councillor | Councillor Reardon |

| Western Sydney Academy of Sport (See Note 2 below) | Regional body established to coordinate lobbying for sports development in Western Sydney. | One Councillor | Councillor Creed |

ORDINARY MEETING

10. REPORTS FOR DETERMINATION

Meeting Date: 8 September 2026

2. Consider further reports to appoint Councillor and community representatives to the Aboriginal Advisory Committee, Access and Inclusion Advisory Committee and Cultural Advisory Committee.

Motion — Carried

For: Lyons-Buckett, Creed, Djuric, Kotlash, McMahon, Reardon, Ryan, Sheather, Veigel, Wheeler, Zamprogno

Against: Nil

Absent: Dogramaci

Item documents

Mary Lyons-Buckett

Thank you. We'll resume the meeting now, and we've got two sets of minutes to pass. So the first set of minutes is from the 7th of August. That was the extraordinary meeting. Can somebody move those minutes, please? Moved Councillor Reardon, seconded Councillor Wheeler. All those in favour? Unanimous. Thank you. And the second set of minutes is from our last ordinary meeting. Councillor Sheather, did you say this was the one with the

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

The 11th of August. Someone to move that? Thank you, Councillor Reardon, seconded Councillor Creed. All those in favour? Thank you. Unanimous. Okay. Thank you. Items on block. Okay, so I've got this down here. 10.4.1, 10.4.3, and 10.5.1 moved, Councillor Creed. Oh, can I— Councillor Kotlash,

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

Done. All those in favour? Unanimous. Thank you. Okay, we'll move on. Councillor Dogramaci is absent for that vote. I think he has other things to attend to. He's left for the night. We'll move on to our first item. We have no public speakers tonight. Our first item is item 10. 2.3, which is around committees. Would you like to move a motion, Councillor Kotlash? Yes, I would. I'd like to move the motion that's in the business paper. Okay. Got a seconder for that? Seconder, Councillor Veigel. Discussion?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Amanda Kotlash

Councillor Kotlash. Yes. My understanding is that the committees that are listed are going to be up for nomination, and I'd like to nominate to be on the Audit, Risk and Improvement Committee, if that is possible.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

Okay. I think we might adopt the recommendation, then go through each one, one by one, to see if there's any changes to that. Sorry then we'll do individually. All those in favour? Unanimous, and Councillor Dogramaci is absent for the vote. Mr Mifsud, will we do each one by one? Okay. They're all up for potential change. Okay. All right. So if somebody has something they want to change or nominate for or seek to be on, just let us know. We'll go one by one. The Disaster and Emergency Committee, well, we're all on that, so no changes there. The General Manager's performance review panel will change a little because it specifies, I believe, the Mayor and the Deputy Mayor and one other councillor to be voted on in here, as well as the General Manager at the time can nominate another councillor.

So that would mean that myself, Councillor Zamprogno, and one other councillor will now be on there. So can we call for nominations for who would like to be on the General Manager performance review? Councillor

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

Nominating Councillor Veigel. Are there any other nominations? Councillor Wheeler. I'll nominate Councillor Ryan. Councillor Ryan. We've got two nominees. Is this going to mean Mr. Mifsud has to get his box back out?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

I apologise. Okay, so we've got two. Any other further nominees? So we have two nominees. How will we do this vote then? Just by show of hands. Okay, so we'll start all those in favour of Councillor— Beg your pardon? You can vote for yourself, of course you can. Come on. Well, you can vote for Councillor Ryan if you'd like. All those in favour of Councillor Veigel, please raise your hands. Councillor Djuric, Councillor Creed, Councillor Reardon, Councillor Veigel, Councillor Sheather, Councillor Zamprogno, and Councillor McMahon. Those in favour of Councillor Ryan, please raise your hands. That is Councillor Kotlash, Councillor Wheeler, Councillor Ryan and Councillor Lyons-Buckett. Councillor Veigel, with the most votes, will be the delegate on the performance.

Sorry? Would you like to make a speech, would you? Okay. Well, I wasn't going to let you, but yeah. Okay. Thank you. The next committee is the Audit, Risk and Improvement Committee. Councillor Kotlash, you expressed a wish. Yes, thank you. I'll nominate myself, thank you. Now, are you nominating? We have the capacity for an alternate. Councillor Creed, do you wish to stay on that committee? No

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

Me there. Yeah. Councillor Creed is our current delegate. Is there anybody else who wishes to go on that? No? Yeah, there to stay Oh, you want an alternate? Can we have someone who could be an alternate for the Local Traffic Forum? How often are the meetings, once a month or?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

By Zoom. Is there anyone who— Councillor Ryan offering to be an alternate? Thank you. All those in favour of that? Unanimous. That's Councillor Creed with alternate Councillor Ryan for the Local Traffic Forum. The Floodplain Management Advisory Committee. We can have three councillors on that. Currently we have Councillor Sheather, Councillor Reardon and Councillor Wheeler. Are those three people wanting to stay, and do we have any further nominees? Can

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

Okay. Councillor Wheeler? Yes, I'd like to stay. Councillor Sheather wants to stay. Councillor Reardon ? Yes. Okay. That makes four of us. Do we know how strict the policy is, or could we have four? We can have four. We'll have four. Okay, there was no other nominees for that. So that's four of us on the Floodplain Management Committee: Councillor Sheather, Councillor Reardon, Councillor Wheeler and Councillor Lyons-Buckett. Heritage Advisory Committee is five people, five councillors, in fact. We have Councillor Djuric, Councillor Lyons-Buckett, Councillor Reardon, Councillor Wheeler and Councillor Zamprogno. Is everyone happy to stay on that, and would anyone else like to join? Happy to stay.

Councillor Djuric, Councillor Reardon? Yes. Yes. Councillor Zamprogno? Yes. Councillor Wheeler? Yes. And I'm happy to do that, so that stays the same. The Heritage Awards Working Group. Councillor Wheeler, could you just explain to us what might be going on here?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Danielle Wheeler

So these are the working groups that have come off the Heritage Advisory Committee, and so far I've just gone on them as chair. The other option is that it needs to be one of the five councillors who are on the Heritage Committee, or I don't think it will make sense. Councillor Djuric and I have previously been on the Windsor Bridge Artefacts Working Group, and I think that that membership carried over under the terms of reference. Sorry, I've just kicked my fancy Hawkesbury mug under the table. So it may be that this is something that's easier for the five councillors to just sort out. And

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

To just do in the Heritage Committee via the chamber. Thank you. If everyone's happy with that, the five councillors can work that out within the Heritage Committee. Thank you. The McMahons Park Management Committee. Councillor Reardon, you're currently on there and I'm the alternate. Are you happy with that arrangement? Is there anyone else would like to join the McMahons Park Management Committee?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

We shall leave that as it is. The Hawkesbury Sports Council, Councillor Sheather with the alternate Councillor Veigel. Any other nominations or any changes to that? No, thank you. We'll leave that the same. Councillor Creed, the Civic Risk Mutual. You happy to stay on that?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

Okay. Anyone else want to nominate for the Civic Risk Mutual? It's our council's insurance body that we're on, a self-insurance agency established by a consortium of participating councils. No other takers. Thank you, Councillor Creed, for staying on there. The Outer Western Sydney Alliance, which is for the Mayor, and I have just been discussing with Councillor Sheather who we may attend together for a passover for a little while to transition out of that, so we'll both go to that for a short while. Hawkesbury Sister City Association. It says two councillors, but we have three because we had Councillor Creed and Councillor Ryan join at the same time. Any other takers for the Sister City? Everyone's welcome, of course, to go at any time to the events and things held there. No changes there?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

New South Wales Public Libraries. Councillor Reardon, that's you. Are you wanting to stay on that committee? Yes. Anyone else want to go on the Public Libraries Committee? No. Councillor Veigel, are you wanting to do that? Yeah. Okay. Thank you. And the Western Sydney Academy of Sport, Councillor Creed. Happy to stay

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mike Creed

Yeah, they're currently going through a transition with the old sort of structure of the organisation and some mergers, so they're going to hopefully come and brief the General Manager and the mayor.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

Okay, great. Thank you. So you're happy to stay on that. So we've gone through all the committees now, I believe. So thank you to everyone serving on those committees and those joining, and for the work done if you're stepping down. Is there anything else we need to discuss with this matter before we move on? Councillor

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Danielle Wheeler

Wheeler. Thanks, Madam Mayor. Look, one of the issues I think that we have with this committee, with the committees, is the lack of formal reporting mechanism. I've discussed it with people on a few other councils, and they tend to just set up a semi-formal reporting structure, and perhaps we can do that now. We can't have briefings, so perhaps in some of those council sessions, people who are on particularly external committees where the minutes don't come back to councils, or where the minutes are more complex, like the ARIC, it might be helpful if we have some time set aside each month for some of that committee information to come back to us, rather than us trying to— It's one of those unknown unknowns, I think.

You know, you don't know, or unknown unknowns. You don't know what to ask because you don't know what's going on in those spaces. So where Heritage comes back in a fairly sort of clear-cut... Lengthy minutes, as does floodplain. Some of the other stuff is much harder to work out what's going on. So if we could, if the staff could incorporate some formal discussion mechanism, that would be helpful. Given that it doesn't come back to the Chamber, the Minister should be entirely happy with that.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

Thank you, Councillor Wheeler. I think that is a really good idea. I'm just— so we're wanting staff to come up with a mechanism for that, or how you would identify— I think even

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Amanda Kotlash

Interrupting. Is point two of that item to consider the reports to appoint councillors and community reps to the Aboriginal Advisory Committee, Access and Inclusion and Cultural Advisory Committee?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader

Agenda item chapter 5

10.2.4 — GM - Six Monthly Progress Report - 2025/2026 Operational Plan

Official meeting record

Council decision and source documents

Outcome: Carried

191 Resolution

That Council:

1. Receive and note the Six-Monthly Progress Report for the period from 1 January 2026 to 30 June 2026, on the 2025/2026 Operational Plan.

2. Endorse the final status of actions identified as Completed, Carryover and Cancelled, including the reasons identified within this report, and approve the carry over of actions for delivery under the 2026/2027 Operational Plan.

Motion — Carried

For: Lyons-Buckett, Creed, Djuric, Kotlash, McMahon, Reardon, Ryan, Sheather, Veigel, Wheeler, Zamprogno

Against: Nil

Absent: Dogramaci

Item documents

Sarah McMahon

Thank you, Madam Mayor. I'm declaring a less than significant non-pecuniary interest. The report mentions the Hawkesbury Fire Control Centre. I'm a member of both the Hawkesbury Communications Brigade and Ebenezer Brigade. Thank you. And no—sorry, no reason to leave the room because it's volunteer.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Danielle Wheeler

Councillor Wheeler. Thanks, Madam Mayor. I have a less than significant non-pecuniary interest in 10.2.4, in that I'm a member of the Communications Brigade of the New South Wales RFS, which uses the Fire Control Centre mentioned in the report. It's below the threshold for significance, so I'll remain in the chamber on that clause. And I also have a special disclosure of pecuniary interest in the matter, in that my property is included in the slab barn study and the heritage listings as part of the Hawkesbury Local Environment Plan, but because it's an LGA-wide pecuniary interest, I'll remain in the chamber. Thank you,

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Danielle Wheeler

Thank you. A few questions mixed in with the discussion. One in particular is the impact of the developer, or the construction company, Bathla, going into liquidation, which I understand has some impact on the vineyard contributions. Could we get some details of that? I'm happy to take that on notice, but I think it would be helpful if we had some public feedback on what's likely to happen there. Could we also get some information on the two grants that we've received, the Permit, Plug and Play and the Safer Cities, if councillors could receive some information about what's intended to be done with those grants. Another question. How long do we have funding built in for the community hubs?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Monica Cologna

Thank you. Through you, Madam Mayor, we'll take the first two questions on notice. In terms of the community hubs, the grant body has extended the time to acquit the funding until June 2027 , and we've currently extended the officer doing that position until the end of November.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Monica Cologna

Through you, Madam Mayor , we have the capacity to extend the officer because there will be grant funding left and we're still within the time frame. And in addition to that, we are undertaking a review to look at the future of that position. Great

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Danielle Wheeler

It would be good if we could discuss that as part of the budget preparations as well, the continuation of those community hubs for next year's budget. Could we also have a workshop on our parks, including information about play facilities and resourcing So some information. I know we had to remove some play equipment and we've had some downgrading of some spaces as a result. Could we have a workshop or discussion on where we are with the condition of our parks and the play facilities in them, again, so that we can think about resourcing before budget discussions? There's just some, and the other thing I'd like, two other things I'd like some information on is the future options, the future investigation into the animal shelter, if we could get some info on that, and a discussion about where we are with FOGO and what's happening with that project, please.

And then I'll just make some general points about the report. There's some really good and interesting projects in this report. It's another good example of the activities that Council is undertaking that you probably wouldn't know about if you didn't delve into the content of the report, if you just skimmed over the bits in the business paper. But some really useful stuff like the Learn to Drive supervisor workshops for parents of kids who are learning to drive, and a couple of workshops for kids themselves learning to drive. I remember attending something similar when my son was at that stage that was run by Blue Datto, and really getting a lot of information out of that and finding it quite useful at changing my thinking around some of the things to do with teaching a young person to drive.

The tree mapping project is nice to see evolving. I can see that we're up to another bin audit, which I'm sure will upset everybody when they get the wrong sticker on their bin. And I do want to celebrate the fact that we only have four ICE vehicles left in the fleet, something I didn't think we would achieve in my lifetime, let alone in my time on Council.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Les Sheather

Yeah, thanks, Madam Mayor. It's in relation to the liquid trade waste framework. It's something I should have taken up with the General Manager. I sent some information through a week or so ago about the opposition leader, I think it was, proposing to review council areas who don't have sewerage, who have pump-outs and the likes, to catch up on the backlog. Have we gone anywhere with that at this stage?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Through you, Madam Mayor, staff have prepared some advice for circulation to the, I think it's the Shadow Minister for Water, but that hasn't been sent through yet.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader

Agenda item chapter 6

10.3.1 — CP - Significant Development Applications

Official meeting record

Council decision and source documents

Outcome: Carried

192 Resolution

That:

1. The information contained in this report regarding significant Development Applications be received and noted.

2. Planning Proposals be added to the significant Development Applications report.

Motion — Carried

For: Lyons-Buckett, Creed, Djuric, Dogramaci, Kotlash, McMahon, Reardon, Ryan, Sheather, Veigel, Wheeler, Zamprogno

Against: Nil

Absent: Dogramaci

Item documents

Danielle Wheeler

Thank you. Quite simply, it's the, yep, point one is the.. . Resolution in the business paper, and the second is that planning proposals be added to the significant DA report. I asked a question about whether we could do it last month, and it seems we can.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Danielle Wheeler

Just very briefly, all the DAs, I think, are the same as last month. The point of adding planning proposals is that it will hopefully prevent people being broadsided. We've had some publicity in the last couple of days, I think from the Daily Telegraph, about the planning proposal for Belmont Park, which has left a lot of people in the community reeling. And I think it would be useful if people got that information ahead of the newspaper getting hold of it. Given that we live here, it would be nice to know what's happening in our space, even though we don't seem to have any control of it. Thank you, Councillor Wheeler.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader

Agenda item chapter 7

10.4.2 — CS - Risk Management Framework

Official meeting record

Council decision and source documents

Outcome: Carried

194 Resolution

1. That Council adopt the Risk Management Framework, comprising of:

- a) Risk Management Policy, included as Attachment 1 to this report.

- b) Risk Management Plan, as Attachment 2 to this report.

- c) Confidential Register of Strategic Risks, included as Confidential Attachment 3 to this report.

2. The Risk Management Plan be further reviewed to provide a mechanism to report to Council any strategic risks which exceed Council's adopted risk appetite.

Motion — Carried

For: Lyons-Buckett, Creed, Djuric, Kotlash, McMahon, Reardon, Ryan, Sheather, Veigel, Wheeler, Zamprogno

Against: Nil

Absent: Dogramaci

Item documents

Danielle Wheeler

Thank you, Councillor Wheeler. Thanks, Madam Mayor. I'm sorry. My only concern with this report, this is, I think this is a really helpful and useful process , and it's very well detailed, but my only concern with it is that we seem to be missing a step at five in the framework where risk is reported to Council. So I can see what's supposed to be reported, and there's a line about the General Manager discussing the active plan with the governing body each term, but I think it falls a little bit short, particularly in a high-risk environment, and I think it would be helpful for— For councillors to be told if something is of high risk, that we need to be involved or be cognisant of the management of, and I don't think we can do that on a once-a-term basis.

So I'd actually quite like—I'm happy with one and two in the resolution, but I would like 2. 2 in the recommendation that we rework the risk management plan to increase reporting to Council. So I'll move that as an amendment if the initial mover prefers that.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Through you, Madam Mayor, for any risks that reach the threshold outlined in the plan, or the policy, I should say, for any specific projects or individual projects, that would go up through the governance framework that we already have in process, which is incorporated into but sits outside of the strategic risk register. With respect to strategic risks that escalate, that would, I think, first go to ARIC and be reported on a regular basis to ARIC. But we can certainly take on board the— and review the policy, sorry, the plan, insofar as ensuring there's an adequate step in there to satisfy Council that it is reported to Council in a timely fashion.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Danielle Wheeler

Thank you. Yeah, I noticed that things got to ARIC, but they seem to stop at the ARIC, and they don't come back to us. And it's that missing loop back to the governing body that I find concerning. So I get that the ARIC is, you know, a relatively recent development that is supposed to protect us from ourselves, but I find it problematic that as a governing body, we don't get adequate feedback from ARIC, and we are therefore not as aware of what's going on in that space. And I think that's been exacerbated with the loss of briefings where we would have something come to us that we discussed, and I would therefore prefer to see a formal arrangement where heightened risk comes back, and maybe it's flagged in the ARIC report for Council to deal with, if that's the better mechanism.

But I'm not satisfied with where we sit now. I don't think that it gives the governing body enough information for us to meet our statutory requirements. Can

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

We that being the case, however, if we're about to adopt it, we'd probably need to have something in there to reflect what you've just said. If you want to add something or request that something be added. So

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Danielle Wheeler

Could point two be that the risk management plan include a reporting mechanism to Council post-ARIC for risks that escalate or are likely to escalate ? Does that consist with the general manager's advice earlier?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Yes. Yeah . Yeah. Through, Madam Mayor, if I could offer some slightly amended wording that the risks be, so strategic risks be reported or flagged on the production of the minutes from ARIC, where a risk sits outside Council's tolerance.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Amanda Kotlash

Thank you, Councillor. I'm happy with that, thank you. Thank you, Madam Mayor . I was actually going to ask a question of, could we just have an explanation about how the Audit, Risk and Improvement Committee, now I'm the delegate, how that fits into the earlier discussions we were having about , you know, how delegates can provide a list of Council those sorts of kind of meaningful bits of information that come out of the Audit and Risk Committee. So I think the General Manager, excuse me, has nailed it. It's just going to be the exceptions because there's so many risks that we would be drowning in risks. So it's sort of, I think I could probably take on that process of trying to figure out what is an exception.

On page four of the plan, I was quite satisfied with the relationship that it has under 2.3, which is the risk governance, because it has a very clear connection between Council and the Audit Risk Committee. The other connections to the General Manager and the Director of Corporate Services are not so strong, apparently. So, you know, I think we've got a plan that's okay to adopt at the moment. I think, yeah, I mean, I'm happy to support the extra points, but I think that's how I read that, and I had the same sort of, you know, questions as Councillor Wheeler. So, yeah, that will be. A good idea, but I think it needs to develop, to develop. So don't possibly, you know, hold us to account just yet, because I think this is going to have to, yeah , be useful and not overbearing.

That's really it. I was just, yeah, I just wanted to make note of that. And, yeah, it's, I thought it was ready to be

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Les Sheather

Yeah, thank you, Madam Mayor. Why these are very detailed in relation to the risk to Council, one of the things that concerned me, and might be ably explained by the General Manager, is when we look at the risk to Council, that it doesn't detract, I guess, from outside organisations or individuals that may have business with Council. Just how might that be addressed? So we say we need to lock ourselves in a room. It's just that no one might be able to get in. Can that be explained? General

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Through you, Madam Mayor, it's a little bit difficult to, I guess, discuss this in the hypothetical, and I note that the risk strategic risk register is a confidential attachment. What I can offer is that through the review and the development, the risks, the way that the risks are assessed are against the risk of Council or events leading to Council not being able to deliver on its strategic objectives. So that considers— The, for example, the ongoing ability to deliver services and engage with the community, for example, and it has to strike that balance between those two competing demands that I think you're alluding to. But to go into any further detailed discussion, I suggest that we would have to move into confidential.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

Thank you, General Manager. Actually, Councillor Sheather, I did have some questions around the risk register, which I was going to raise in confidential. I was going to suggest we raise any questions around that during our confidential session, not go into confidential now. Is that okay? So we could maybe, you could maybe give an example and we could look at that then. Any further discussion? Councillor Wheeler.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

Thank you. I think there's just the director... Just fixing the wording. Yes , we're just fixing the wording. Thank you. Is your screen fixed? Is the one next to you working?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

Okay. That it now? Mayor, I'm happy to accept the amendment. Thank you very much, Councillor Reardon, and Councillor Creed is also happy. Is there any further discussion on that? Right of reply, Councillor Reardon

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader

Agenda item chapter 8

10.4.4 — CS – Local Government Grants Commission – Financial Assistance Grants Program 2026/2027

Official meeting record

Council decision and source documents

Outcome: Carried

196 Resolution

That Council:

1. Receives the report on the Hawkesbury City Council General Purpose and Local Roads estimated entitlement for the 2026/2027 financial year and notes that our allocation has reduced by 4% before inflation, while the majority of NSW Councils have received an increase.

2. Contact the Local Government Grants Commission to express our disappointment at their decision.

3. Contact the Member for Hawkesbury, Robyn Preston, requesting that she makes representations on our behalf about the impacts of the loss of funding and the stark disparity between the Blue Mountains per capita allocation ($121.07) and the Hawkesbury allocation ($39.83).

4. Contact the member for Macquarie, Susan Templeman to make her aware of the disparity in allocation across her electorate and the reduction in funding available to Hawkesbury residents.

5. Council consider a possible motion to the Local Government NSW Conference on the matter of the Local Government Grants Commission federal assistance grants formula.

Motion — Carried

For: Lyons-Buckett, Creed, Djuric, Kotlash, McMahon, Reardon, Ryan, Sheather, Veigel, Wheeler, Zamprogno

Against: Nil

Absent: Dogramaci

Item documents

Danielle Wheeler

Thank you. I think we need to put on record what's going wrong, frankly, with the Local Government Grants Commission and their distribution of the financial assistance grants. If you look at a comparison of what the Hawkesbury receives per capita compared with our neighbours in the Blue Mountains, or even Wollondilly, who we are frequently compared with, or Wingecarribee, who we also often compare ourselves with, the disparity is pretty clear. Hawkesbury gets $39.83 under the New South Wales Local Government Grants Commission. Blue Mountains gets $121.07 per capita. So that leaves us with $5.1 million and Blue Mountains with $11.5 million. The Central Coast gets in excess of $33 million. Wingecarribee gets $70 per person compared to our $39 per person.

So what we see is $5.1 million and falling, and then falling further in real terms due to inflation. I note that Hunters Hill and Mosman, with their tiny LGAs and tiny populations, I think Mosman has something like nine square kilometres in its LGA and two major roads, so they've got about six streets that they're required to maintain. They're receiving an increase of 6%. We're getting a reduction of 4%. What we receive under the financial assistance grants, the whopping $5.1 million, barely covers what we pay out in EPA levy back to the state government, $4.5 million. This disparity in financial support from the federal government via the New South Wales Local Government Grants Commission leaves us open to targets from the community because it requires us to raise rates to cover the obvious shortfall that we constantly run.

So what I would like us to do is request the member for Hawkesbury, Robyn Preston, who has gone on public record chastising us for the recent SRV, request that she makes representations on our behalf about the stark disparity between the Blue Mountains per capita allocation of $121 relative to the Hawkesbury's allocation of $39.83, and also to contact the member for Macquarie, Susan Templeman, and make her aware of the disparity in allocation across her electorate, including the reduction in funding available to Hawkesbury City Council. Given that this is federal money, these are federal assistance grants to council, both our representatives, state and federal, need to be aware of what's going on in this space and hopefully make some representation to have this allocated in a fairer scheme.

The scheme that we have clearly isn't working when this council doesn't receive an uplift because of how disaster-prone we are, because of the very large responsibility we have for roads maintenance across the LGA. When the formula doesn't make any allowance for that, it's clearly broken. When an LGA that has a similar disaster profile, or in fact a lesser disaster profile, given that it doesn't flood, and yet receives three times what we receive per capita in the Blue Mountains, clearly something is very wrong with the formula, and our residents are suffering as a result.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Nathan Zamprogno

Thank you, Madam Mayor. A question in three parts. Firstly, through you to Councillor Wheeler, whether she'd be prepared to extend that to a motion to the upcoming Local Government New South Wales conference, then to ask the General Manager whether it is now too late to lodge such a motion to the Local Government New South Wales conference, and then through you, Madam Mayor, to our representative director on Local Government New South Wales whether he's aware of any initiative in this area to make the formula more equitable. I don't care what order we deal with that in

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Through you, Madam Mayor, it is not too late to lodge a motion, and we can certainly review the proposed wording of a motion against the criteria set by LGNSW. One development is that the Local Government Grants Commission are proposing changes to the formula. They've written to councils today and seeking feedback. We're in the process of digesting that and preparing a memo to circulate to councillors. So if I could suggest through you, Madam Mayor, that we perhaps hold fire until we understand more fully the intentions of the Local Grants Commission in how they propose to modify the formula, and then we can go from there.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Danielle Wheeler

Councillor Wheeler. I'm very happy to add maybe a point four that says, Council consider a motion to Local Government New South Wales to be presented at the October council meeting, or words to that effect. Thank you.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mike Creed

Thank you. Just to give you an update, the Local Government New South Wales Board, we recently discussed the FAG grants and the 1% because we felt like there wasn't, we'd sort of lost momentum. But from the discussion that I had with the President, Dasi Byrne, and the CEO, David Reynolds, is that the Local Government New South Wales, this is not something that they have put on the back burner. It is still very much a live issue. And I understand when the President went down and met with the Prime Minister, this was pretty much the number one topic that was discussed, from my understanding. So Local Government New South Wales is continuing to try and press every sort of lever they can to get the federal government to reinstate the 1%.

So, because this goes back from motions in previous government conferences, so it is something that is still well and truly alive on the board's agenda . Did

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mike Creed

So Local Government New South Wales, I mean, they're looking at all sorts of different aspects, but the main thing is to try and get the funding back up to 1%. That was the core aspect of the motion that was put up. And I think trying to get them to even come to the table to discuss that has been difficult, but they're slowly making progress from what I understand. So when it comes to individual funding arrangements and all of that, it's not quite—they're trying to get the 1%. That's their main focus from what I understand. Thank you.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Nathan Zamprogno

Thank you, Madam Mayor. That's a very productive exchange. My only concern is that it would be too late to leave this to the October meeting, and I'd suggest that Councillor Wheeler's form of words to encourage us to consider— A form of words for a motion. It might be better if we just frame that in such a way as that we're lodging a motion, and the form of that motion would be in consultation with the General Manager, and he has dispensation to make that motion prior to coming back to an October meeting, just for the benefit of time.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Danielle Wheeler

Just very briefly, it appears that Local Government New South Wales must have had their ears burning while we were discussing this earlier today, so I'm very pleased that they're coming up with a new formula. I think it's—I know that there's a big push on at the moment for financial assistance grants to come up to the 1% previously promised, and I know the federal government, the minister at ALGA this year stated that they would not be doing that, that they had no intention of doing that. So there's going to have to be significant, a significant push, I think, from the member organisations to get them to reconsider that prior to the federal election. But I think we're at least in a space where we can do some lobbying in the lead-up to both state and federal elections, and we should. But I await with interest the new formula.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader

Agenda item chapter 9

11.1.1 — ROC - Local Transport Forum - 10 August 2026

Official meeting record

Council decision and source documents

Outcome: Carried

198 Resolution

That Council:

1. Adopt the recommendations contained in the minutes of the Hawkesbury City Council Local Transport Forum meeting held on 10 August 2026.

2. Clarify with the event organiser of the Windsor Spectacular that the details of their event application and associated documents are consistent with their advertised program.

Motion — Carried

For: Lyons-Buckett, Creed, Djuric, Kotlash, McMahon, Reardon, Ryan, Sheather, Veigel, Wheeler, Zamprogno

Against: Nil

Absent: Dogramaci

Item documents

Danielle Wheeler

Thank you. So this is largely the minutes from the— just receive and note the minutes and adopt the recommendations. But we all received an email this afternoon from Mr Miller raising the issues with the advertised program for the Windsor Spectacular, which may not meet the associated approvals for that event. So this just gives the staff the opportunity to clarify with the event organiser that both of those things are consistent, and if anything needs adjustment, then that can happen.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader

Agenda item chapter 10

14.1.1 — Responses to Councillor Questions Taken on Notice at the Council Meeting - 11 August

Danielle Wheeler

Councillor Wheeler. Thanks, Madam Mayor. Just, I'll start with 11.1.1 regarding ICAC recommendations. Could the same reports that are given to the ARIC also be provided to councillors, please, regarding those ICAC recommendations? I think we will all be waiting with interest to see what comes out of the recommendations from Operation Rosny. I'm struggling to get anything done because I'm glued to the broadcast . And of course, Hawkesbury Council has been to ICAC previously during Operation Spicer, as we are all well aware. 14.1.1. How do we then, it appears that we can get heritage of Western Sydney promoted through the VIC. How do we actually do that?

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Danielle Wheeler

So the response, so I asked about this app that Council paid into and that still exists. I guess I hope when I raise something in questions on notice that something happens. You know, when I suggest there's a couple of items here where I've suggested that things would be good to happen, and it just comes back and says, yes, that could happen. And what I'd really like is for something to happen. Otherwise, if that isn't going to be the way it goes, then you're going to need to give me a pathway to follow in order to make that happen. I guess that's what I'm asking for, what that pathway is beyond me raising it and hoping for the best.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Paul Veigel

Thank you. Councillor Veigel. Just regarding the response to the Horsby Showground when it came to the Winterfest, we have got plans when the lease is up for small and medium-sized events, because clearly it wasn't acceptable. I don't know what you call Winterfest. What is it? It's not small. I wouldn't call it medium. I would call it large. I would call it large too. So I think the response to somebody said, Oh, well, we don't have to because we don't believe it's a large-scale event. Well, I would beg to differ, but I know you've got some resolution there. My comment to that is tough. Sort it out and stop mucking around with the local traffic laws, because it's getting worse. And clearly when you have these events, it should be on par with what the show does, which is an excellent traffic plan, dare I say.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Paul Veigel

Resolve it before? Well, it's in the lease agreement here, and Council's responded to that. But I would just ask, you know, go back and say, Listen, you need to do better. Yeah, I would have thought so. We're going to be here next year, and I'll be complaining about it again, no doubt with some other colleagues on

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Mary Lyons-Buckett

Council. So we can look at that, and before, I think it's July, it's on each year, so before then. Thank you, Councillor Veigel. Any further discussion on questions? No? Yay.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader

Meeting dialogue chapter 11

Unassigned dialogue

Mary Lyons-Buckett

That's it. It's time to move into confidential then. Can I have a motion to move in? Councillor Creed, seconded Councillor Veigel. All those in favour? Move into confidential. Thank you, members of the gallery for attending. Welcome to wait outside if you want to.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader

Agenda item chapter 12

15.3.1 — CS - Acquisition of Part of 46 Ogden Road, Oakville

Nathan Zamprogno

Thank you, Madam Mayor. In relation to item 15.3.1, I need to declare a less than significant non-pecuniary interest, as members of my family attend the affected school. Thank you.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader
Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Thank you, Madam Mayor. Whilst in confidential session, with respect to item 15.3.1, Council resolved on the motion of Councillor Creed, seconded by Councillor Sheather, that Council undertake— sorry, that Council undertake the compulsory acquisition under sections 186 and 187 of the Local Government Act 1993 of the area of land shown within Attachment 3 to this report, being 9.529 square metres within part of 46 Ogden Road, Oakville, part of Lot 252 in Deposited Plan 752050, being proposed Lot 1 in Deposited Plan 1325873, for the purposes of road widening for the amount detailed in this report under a section 30 agreement, Land Acquisition (Just Terms Compensation) Act 1991. Two, Council approve the making of application to the Minister for Local Government for the issue of a proposed acquisition notice, or a PAN, under the Land Acquisition (Just Terms Compensation) Act 1991 with respect to the acquisition of land.

Three, Council approve the making of application to the Governor for the publication of acquisition notice in the New South Wales Government Gazette under the Land Acquisition (Just Terms Compensation) Act 1991 with respect to the acquisition of the land. Four, Council bear all costs in association with the process of acquiring the parcel of land. Five, authority be given for the section 30 agreement, Land Acquisition Just Terms Compensation Act 1991, for the acquisition of part 46 Ogden Road, Oakville, and any documentation in association with this matter to be executed under the seal of Council. Six, Council grant delegation to the General Manager to execute any documents on behalf of Council associated with the compulsory acquisition process which do not require the seal of Council to be affixed.

Seven, the Office of Local Government be provided with a copy of the Council report and Council resolution. And eight, details of Council's resolution be conveyed to the affected landowner together with the advice that it is not and will not be bound by the terms of its resolution until such time as appropriate documentation to put such a resolution into effect has been executed.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader

Agenda item chapter 13

15.3.2 — CS - Easement - Wilberforce Shopping Centre - 15 King Road, Wilberforce

Will Barton(staff - General Manager)

Through you, Madam Mayor, with respect to item 15.3.2, whilst in closed, in confidential session, I should say, given the matter was on block moved by the Mayor, and my apologies, I neglected to say that the previous item, that is 15.3.1, was resolved unanimously and that Councillor Dogramaci was absent for the vote. With respect to 15.3.2, as I was saying, moved on the motion of the Mayor, given it was on block, that Council, resolved, I should say, that Council, one, Council agree to the creation of an easement to the benefit of 10 George Road, Wilberforce, comprising an area of 31.37 square metres within Wilberforce Shopping Centre, 15 King Road, Wilberforce, lot D in Deposited Plan 334004, as outlined in this report and as shown in Attachment 2 to this report, and compensation in the amount detailed in this report be accepted by Council.

Two, the owners of 10 George Road, Wilberforce, reimburse Council for all legal costs incurred by Council in relation to the easement. Three, authority be given for any plans and other documentation in association with this matter be executed under the seal of Council. And four, details of the resolution be conveyed to the owners of 10 George Road, Wilberforce, together with the advice that Council is not and will not be bound by the terms of its resolution until such time as appropriate documentation to put such resolution into effect has been agreed to and executed by all parties. That was resolved unanimously with Councillor Dogramaci absent from the vote.

Play speech
Original Council recordingOpen this speech in the interactive reader

Meeting dialogue chapter 14

Unassigned dialogue